Super Rugby Trans Tasman
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‘We have to beat the best’: RA won’t retreat from trans-Tasman rugby
After an 0-10 start to the trans-Tasman Super Rugby season, the question of whether Australia should revert to a national championship has been raised.
McLennan won’t shy away from trans- Ta$man rugby next year. In fact, he wants the same competition structure in 2022. “They’re disappointing results but I’m unfazed with regards to our mission. If we want to be the world’s best, we have to beat the world’s best. And New Zealand has the best provincial rugby sides in the world,” McLennan told the Herald. -
@bovidae said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
There is a very real possibility that a NZ team is undefeated but still doesn't make the final. That's why BPs are so important. Still 3 rounds to go though.
Yeah. It's pretty crazy that you can be unbeaten and have a +22 points difference after two games and be 5th on the table.
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Well, the Crusaders will go unbeaten, so of the remaining games which wouldn't be considered huge upsets if the Oz team won, which looks hardest?
Reds at Home (this week, Chiefs)
Reds at Home (next week, Blues)
Brumbies at home (next week, Canes)
Brumbies at home (June 11, Landers)None of this is to not say that the Rebels or Tahs couldn't trip up someone at home (like the fucking Chiefs) or that the Force couldn't steal one away, but, of those games, which look most likely?
I'd say next week Brumbies/Canes and this week Reds/Chiefs (Saders did the Chiefs no favors last week) look the most likely.
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@gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend
You're going to the game, right?
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@gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
Well, the Crusaders will go unbeaten, so of the remaining games which wouldn't be considered huge upsets if the Oz team won, which looks hardest?
Reds at Home (this week, Chiefs)
Reds at Home (next week, Blues)
Brumbies at home (next week, Canes)
Brumbies at home (June 11, Landers)None of this is to not say that the Rebels or Tahs couldn't trip up someone at home (like the fucking Chiefs) or that the Force couldn't steal one away, but, of those games, which look most likely?
I'd say next week Brumbies/Canes and this week Reds/Chiefs (Saders did the Chiefs no favors last week) look the most likely.
Chiefs look the most in danger IMO. The travel schedule and injuries will catch them eventually even if just to deny them a BP against a team that everyone else has picked off easily.
The Reds game this week also looks like a banana skin. Back across the Ta$man again and this time up to Townsville. -
@gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend
You're going to the game, right?
yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.
Warriors friday, Chief saturday
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend
You're going to the game, right?
yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.
Warriors friday, Chief saturday
We're fucked then. But, I hope you have a good weekend, that sounds like a lot of fun with the kids.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend
You're going to the game, right?
yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.
Warriors friday, Chief saturday
At least you get those idiot Warriors out of the way on the Friday, and as long as @gt12 is talking up the opposition on Saturday it should be an easy win to the Chiefs.
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People talk about the Saffa sides, but where are the Jaguares in all this?
They had a team last year, and with only one team, they cant play with themselves like everyone else....
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@taniwharugby Yeah, all they have now is the Jaguares XV squad (based in Buenos Aires) that plays in the Súper Liga Americana de Rugby, where they have replaced the Ceibos (based in Cordoba). It's basically the Jaguares, minus the player exodus to Europe, MLR and Aussie SR sides. Pre-Covid, the Jaguares XV were the development team of the Jaguares that was scheduled to take part in the Currie Cup, but Covid ruined that, too. I suspect that only a few of the old Jaguares team are still there. Youngsters, and maybe a few older players who've returned from Europe. I understand that - maybe next year - the Ceibos will join the SLAR again and Argentina will have two teams in that competition.
There has also been talk of relocating the Jaguares to Spain and joining the PRO 14, but I haven't heard much about that recently.
I miss the Jaguares. I loved how they reached the SR Final in 2019. They added something different; another style of rugby and a lot of passion. The time difference was convenient enough, with games at decent times on Sunday morning for away games. Just the travel. I'd love to have them back.
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@stargazer yea they were good value and despite the time zone, worth persevering with, and in the current climate even better if they had another team, bring more to the comp than the 'PI' team will IMO
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@shark
Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teams -
@yourmatenate said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@shark
Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teamsThree weeks away from Canberra in late May, early June is a blessing. I'm surprised they didn't campaign to have all their games played away.
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@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@hydro11 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
The Australian teams are much worse than us. The draw does favour our teams though. The Hurricanes for instance are getting to rest some players with three easy games before taking on the Reds and the Brumbies. The Reds and Brumbies stand a chance of winning games, especially at home against our weaker sides. I think it will get tougher for them as the competition goes on.
If you had a format where you play teams for your own country twice and all the Aussie teams once, it would at least appear more even. The New Zealand teams would be more tired from playing each other.
Realistically, the best format would be 5 NZ teams, 4 Aus teams and 1 Pacific or Japanese team. That would provide the most even and balanced competition possible.
The Crusaders played the top two Australian teams in the first two weeks, including their champions away. The Highlanders got their best side and then a trip to Perth. The Chiefs had to start in Perth a week after our final.
How has the draw favoured NZ teams???
I thought my post explained it clearly.
It's obvious. The Brumbies and Reds have 5 tough games in a row (after their final). The Hurricanes had a week off, play 2 easy teams, the Force and then the Brumbies/Reds. Every Australian team has a tough draw because they do not have to play the other Australian teams!
In a round-robin format, the Brumbies/Reds would get to intersperse games against New Zealand teams with easy games against Australian opposition. This would give them a greater chance of winning these games and would make them more competitive.
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@hydro11 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@hydro11 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
The Australian teams are much worse than us. The draw does favour our teams though. The Hurricanes for instance are getting to rest some players with three easy games before taking on the Reds and the Brumbies. The Reds and Brumbies stand a chance of winning games, especially at home against our weaker sides. I think it will get tougher for them as the competition goes on.
If you had a format where you play teams for your own country twice and all the Aussie teams once, it would at least appear more even. The New Zealand teams would be more tired from playing each other.
Realistically, the best format would be 5 NZ teams, 4 Aus teams and 1 Pacific or Japanese team. That would provide the most even and balanced competition possible.
The Crusaders played the top two Australian teams in the first two weeks, including their champions away. The Highlanders got their best side and then a trip to Perth. The Chiefs had to start in Perth a week after our final.
How has the draw favoured NZ teams???
I thought my post explained it clearly.
It's obvious. The Brumbies and Reds have 5 tough games in a row (after their final). The Hurricanes had a week off, play 2 easy teams, the Force and then the Brumbies/Reds. Every Australian team has a tough draw because they do not have to play the other Australian teams!
In a round-robin format, the Brumbies/Reds would get to intersperse games against New Zealand teams with easy games against Australian opposition. This would give them a greater chance of winning these games and would make them more competitive.
So it's a tough draw for the Australians, because they're not good, and have to play five superior teams in a row? That's not a tough draw so much as incompetence.
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@yourmatenate said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@shark
Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teamsThat's one team. Meanwhile the Force, Waratahs and Rebels all started at home didn't they? The Force got two home games to start.
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@yourmatenate said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@shark
Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teamsChiefs .... SRA Final in Chch, then 3rd best Strayan team 4 hours worth of time zones away in Perth via at least a bus trip to Auckland, probable stop over in Sydney (not sure if there are direct flights), 4 time zones back to Hamilton (stop over and bus), play 2nd best Australian team, bus trip to Akl and flight via probable stop over in Brisbane to get to Townsville to play best Australian team, with 2 hour time difference, then return via probably Brisbane, then Auckland then bus to Hamilton, backwards over two hour time difference ...
How's the Brumbles little hops up the country compare?
