Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
-
Got to have a lot of sympathy for Robinson. Should have come off the field expecting to be asked about what was a reasonable test debut. Instead he was ambushed by the Mail and had to read a cringeworthy apology. For what? A few puerile adolescent attempts at humour that are tamer than the sort of thing Jeremy Clarkson regularly said on prime time TV!
Not meant as an apology for racism/sexism at all and the tweets were certainly embarrassing but FFS Daily Mail.
-
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.
Dunno about that, KW is the senior player and tends to go ok at 3. Mind you Lara and Ponting tended to switch between those positions from memory. Cricinfo tells me that Tendulkar never batted 3 and KW has only batted 4 twice.
In terms of potential and proven performers that top six could be even better than what we have currently though.
-
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
-
-
-
@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
Thoroughly agree re Rosco. He should have to bang Steads' nana in order to get dropped, such is his right to be there.
Boult isn't available until the WTC final.
-
-
@shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Boult isn't available until the WTC final.
Seems to be mixed stories about that.
-
-
@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?
The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd
Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.
-
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?
The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd
Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.
I did hear that crack sound. Weird
-
@crucial There's software that will do that for you. This won't be the last time we see a young athlete caught out like this. Touring teams to the UK in any sport in the future will need to be briefed about editting their personal social media accounts. Anything players leave on social media is fair game for the mainstream media in the same way as if they said it in a press conference.
Ollie Robinson has apologised unreservedly. He has deleted the offending messages. There is no evidence they are reflective of the person he is today. He might still face a fine and possibly even a short ban for breech of the ECB code of conduct.
I thought Ollie Robinson bowled wonderfully yesterday without much reward. I think England have found their replacement for Jimmy Anderson.
-
@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
Agree re: Rosco, he's also been killing it in the ODIs the past few years so don't think he's quite a spent force, though he's not far off. I'd also be loathe to leave out our most experienced player on the big stage, the young guys will look to him during the match for support and guidance.
-
I saw none of the match so far, but will tune in for the first session tonight.
Absolutely fucking awesome to see Conway do well, he fills a big gap in the opening position, our lineup looks bloody strong with him there and in form. Also love that Nicholls looks to have just ground their bowlers into the dust with a dogged innings, exactly what is needed on day 1 of a test. I'll take that innings 10 times out of 10, even if fair-weather fans like @MN5 don't find it "entertaining" enough.
-
@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
ECB say they are going to "launch an investigation". Christ, what the hell are they going to investigate? Idiot teenager tells offensive jokes to be funny. In other news water is wet and the sky is blue. Just let the kid apologise along the lines of "yeah I was just being a bit of a dick, sorry about that" and move the fuck on. God the media is just the worst.
-
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
ECB say they are going to "launch an investigation". Christ, what the hell are they going to investigate? Idiot teenager tells offensive jokes to be funny. In other news water is wet and the sky is blue. Just let the kid apologise along the lines of "yeah I was just being a bit of a dick, sorry about that" and move the fuck on. God the media is just the worst.
would also be one hell of a rubbish contract if digging out stuff you did years ago means that you can be fined now.
-
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I saw none of the match so far, but will tune in for the first session tonight.
Absolutely fucking awesome to see Conway do well, he fills a big gap in the opening position, our lineup looks bloody strong with him there and in form. Also love that Nicholls looks to have just ground their bowlers into the dust with a dogged innings, exactly what is needed on day 1 of a test. I'll take that innings 10 times out of 10, even if fair-weather fans like @MN5 don't find it "entertaining" enough.
I’m not saying he didn’t do his job I just hope he picks up the pace today. Loads of big hitters still to come.
If that’s my only criticism then it’s fair to say the team is going ok.
-
@mn5 you contradict your own argument. If there are plenty of bug hitters to come Nicholls has no need to up his scoring rate. He just just keep on doing what he has been - we should be looking to bat once and bat big so slow scoring isn't really an issue at this stage. What we don't want to do is lose three quick wickets early on Day 2 and undo all the good work from Day 1
-
@dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 you contradict your own argument. If there are plenty of bug hitters to come Nicholls has no need to up his scoring rate. He just just keep on doing what he has been - we should be looking to bat once and bat big so slow scoring isn't really an issue at this stage. What we don't want to do is lose three quick wickets early on Day 2 and undo all the good work from Day 1
When you put it that way it does make sense I just hope he gets out of Trevor Franklin mode a bit ( whilst preserving his wicket of course )
-
Bat once. Bat long.
Ollie Robinson's racist and sexist tweets emerge during debut
