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<p>This was pretty cringe but he dealt with it well<br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2640619-steven-adams-apologizes-for-calling-warriors-guards-quick-little-monkeys'>http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2640619-steven-adams-apologizes-for-calling-warriors-guards-quick-little-monkeys</a></p>
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<p> </p>Steven Adams Apologizes for Calling Warriors Guards 'Quick Little Monkeys' By <a class="" href="http://bleacherreport.com/users/1093730-scott-polacek" title="Scott Polacek"><span style="margin:0px;">Scott Polacek</span></a>, <span style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;">Featured Columnist</span> May 17, 2016<div style="margin:0px;"> <ul class=""><li><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2640619-steven-adams-apologizes-for-calling-warriors-guards-quick-little-monkeys#' title="Share on Facebook"> <span style="margin:0px;">SHARE</span></a></li> <li><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2640619-steven-adams-apologizes-for-calling-warriors-guards-quick-little-monkeys&text=Steven+Adams+Apologizes+for+Calling+Warriors+Guards+%27Quick+Little+Monkeys%27&tw_p=tweetbutton&via=bleacherreport&counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2640619-steven-adams-apologizes-for-calling-warriors-guards-quick-little-monkeys&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2640619-steven-adams-apologizes-for-calling-warriors-guards-quick-little-monkeys%3Futm_source%3Dtwitter.com%26utm_medium%3Dshare%26utm_campaign%3Dweb-des-art-top-8248' title="Share on Twitter"> <span style="margin:0px;">TWEET</span></a></li> <li> </li> </ul></div><div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(55,55,55);font-family:'Open Sans', Arial, sans-serif;">
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<p class=""><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/oklahoma-city-thunder'>Oklahoma City Thunder</a> big man <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/steven-adams'>Steven Adams</a> played a crucial role in his team's 108-102 victory over the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/golden-state-warriors'>Golden State Warriors</a> in Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals on Monday, but he found himself embroiled in controversy after the contest.</p>
<p>Adams used a regrettable choice of words when describing Golden State's backcourt in a postgame interview with ESPN's Chris Broussard (via Kenny Ducey of <em>Sports Illustrated</em>):</p>
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<p class="">Steven Adams chooses the wrong words to describe the Warriors' guards. "They're quick little monkeys," he says.</p>
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<p>Adams apologized for his verbal mistake, per <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2016/05/17/steven-adams-oklahoma-city-thunder-golden-state-warriors-game-1/84477378/'>Sam Amick</a> of <em>USA Today</em>: "It was just a poor choice of words, mate. I wasn't thinking straight. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone, but I'm truly sorry. It was just a poor choice of words. I was just trying to express how difficult it was chasing those guys around."</p>
<p>Adams is from New Zealand, and Amick noted he came to the United States in 2012 to attend the University of Pittsburgh. Adams pointed to dialect differences as one reason for his choice of words, per Amick.</p>
<p>"It's just different, mate," he said. "Different words, different expressions and stuff like that. But they obviously can be taken differently, depending on which country you're in. I'm assimilating, mate, still trying to figure out the boundaries. But I definitely overstepped them tonight."</p>
<p>Oklahoma City's perimeter defense was a driving force in its road victory. The Warriors shot 11-of-30 (36.7 percent) from three-point range, and reigning two-time MVP <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/stephen-curry'>Stephen Curry</a> shot 9-of-22 from the field and had seven turnovers.</p>
<p>Klay Thompson was solid with 25 points, but Shaun Livingston struggled on his way to four points on 2-of-7 shooting.</p>
<p>Adams was one of four Thunder players to record a double-double. He tallied 16 points and 12 rebounds, while <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/russell-westbrook'>Russell Westbrook</a> posted 27 points and 12 assists, <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/kevin-durant'>Kevin Durant</a> notched 26 points and 10 boards and <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bleacherreport.com/serge-ibaka'>Serge Ibaka</a> added 11 points and 11 rebounds.</p>
<p>Game 2 is set for 9 p.m. ET Wednesday at Golden State's Oracle Arena.</p>
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Tough fought game and Adams played a significant part in an OKC win with his defense and all those free throws down the stretch. They seem to have emerged from SAS series having worked themselves out, they give GS a number of matchup problems and have a great chance to win the series
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<p>This was pretty cringe but he dealt with it well</p>
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<p>No it wasnt cringe. Fucks me off that people 'cringe' about non events like this. Just pandering to the social justice warriors... who tell us we should be ashamed or cringe about the latest PC bollox.</p>
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<p>I appreciate this persons point of view</p>
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<p>Saw the interview live and it was pretty obvious he was reaching for a word to finish the sentence - almost got the feeling he was going to swear something like "buggers" but "monkeys" was the first word that came to mind. I cringed a tiny bit at the time, but it seems like it will sensibly wash over.</p>
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I call my 2yo son a "little monkey" when he runs away from me when he's taken something from the fridge he shouldn't. It's a funny little phrase that has been around for ages. <br><br>
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<p>I call my 2yo son a "little monkey" when he runs away from me when he's taken something from the fridge he shouldn't. It's a funny little phrase that has been around for ages.<br><br><strong>I certainly didn't think anything of it when Adams said it</strong>.</p>
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<p>Not at all. But the word has strong slavery connotations for black americans. They would probably rather hear a guy in a movie use the "N" word before referring to a black guy as a monkey. And I am sure the americans don't even realise Adams is polynesian</p> -
NBA draft is on right now. The lakers (who now get to keep their pick after finishing the lottery in the top 3) Celtics and 76ers are the top 3. I hope it's anyone but Philly as they've basically tanked for the last 3 or 4 years and like the cavs before them simply don't deserve a number one pick
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<p>How regarded is Adams?</p>
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<p>As you'd expect, the NZ media are constantly going on and on and on about Adams. I read a review of the first match Oklahoma vs Golden State on the Guardian website, and Adams wasn't mentioned once.</p>
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<p>I watched the game on replay when I got home from work last night and damn, that was a game of two halves.</p>
<p>And then in that last quater when Durant went like 0 - 6 shots and just kept pushing the shots on every possesion for OKC really pissed me off.</p>
<p>I know he's a great player but I've seen it a number of times where he get's into a mini-slump during the game and rather than dish off possession to a team mate to score, he just keeps on hogging the ball and pushing every shot until one finally hits net.</p>
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<p>As for Adam's, probably not his best game of the playoffs thus far but he was very solid.</p>
<p>One area he really influences the game is how his presence in the paint and defence will put off some of the leagues best shooters. He makes players second guess and change their shots last minute.</p>
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<p>But damn I wish he would get a haircut and a shave... that farking lip slug just makes me cringe :think:</p> -
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<p>As you'd expect, the NZ media are constantly going on and on and on about Adams. I read a review of the first match Oklahoma vs Golden State on the Guardian website, and Adams wasn't mentioned once.</p>
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<p>OK, he's clearly a good basket-baller, but outside of NZ, is he actually generating much press??</p>
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<p>If you watch ESPN I think he is getting a lot of exposure about the quality of his play, not just "look at the Kiwi with the crazy mo that looks like the guy off GoT". He has really stepped it up in the postseason, which is where reputations are forged</p> -
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<p>Cavs giving a Raptors a touch up in Game 1.</p>
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<p>Not at all. <strong>But the word has strong slavery connotations for black americans. They would probably rather hear a guy in a movie use the "N" word before referring to a black guy as a monkey.</strong> And I am sure the americans don't even realise Adams is polynesian</p>
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<p>Really? The N word only has one connotation. Monkey is still a normal part of language and can be used many ways. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary (isn't that American?),it could describe a primate, it could describe a mischievous person or apparently can even describe a subordinate person (as in organ grinders monkey) or an amount of money. As a verb you can monkey about (play the fool) or monkey with something (fiddle with it) or mock someone.</p>
<p>The M-W's first example of sentence use is "He's quite a cheeky little monkey, isn't he? "</p>
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<p>The urban slang dictionary lists it as being used as a racial slur, but then it is also a term for fluffybunny.</p>
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<p>Point is that the context Adams used it in was obvious and defined as legit. It's not like he was using the word in an abstract way when the obvious use in that situation was the racial one. It's the other way around.</p>
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<p>I remember being at a Canterbury v Waikato NPC game a few years ago. A women behind me made monkey noises every time Vunibaka got the ball.</p>
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<p>Morons.</p>
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<p>Yes, there is no doubt that it can (and is) used as a slur. It just isn't the primarily and obvious use of the word.</p>
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- Great win. <br>
- Awesome game from Adams, when his team needed FTs he made them.<br>
- What a total non event this "monkey" shit is.<br><br><br>
I was told yesterday that black people should never be described as monkeys even if its to do with how agile they are.<br><br>
If you think black people look like monkeys then fuck you. But if you think the best way to describe someones physical abilities is to compare them to an animal renowned for those abilities, whats the big deal. <br><br>
If you find that offensive as a non black person then surely its says more about you than the person offering the simile. It suggest you think its offensive because you feel black people will be offended or you think the physical likeness is correct.<br><br>
Adams said something that offended many but only because of PC bullshit and a knee jerk first society.<br><br>
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