NRL 2021
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@hydro11 that's implying that physicality can not be applied without head highs, isn't it?
As with anything NRL changes are made and changes aren't always held. I think what is likely to happen is a complete review of the sin bin system. They'll probably go with reports for accidental head contact with the shoulder and look at the ball carrying players position at he time of the contact. Did they unexpectedly lower their position etc. Head contact is not always the ticklers fault.
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@raznomore said in NRL 2021:
@hydro11 that's implying that physicality can not be applied without head highs, isn't it?
As with anything NRL changes are made and changes aren't always held. I think what is likely to happen is a complete review of the sin bin system. They'll probably go with reports for accidental head contact with the shoulder and look at the ball carrying players position at he time of the of contact. Did they unexpectedly lower their potion. Etc. Head contact is not always the ticklers fault.
The punishments do not eliminate contact with the head but they force players to think differently. Rugby union is now at the stage where any push after the whistle is a penalty reversal. Maybe that is a good thing but it is going to change SoO if that happens in league too.
I remember thinking it was great that Kidwell put a shoulder into Willie Mason after disrespecting the haka. That feels very 2006 these days. Interesting that that was only 15 years ago - attitudes have changed fast. I look back at rugby union and big hits just don't stand out to me?
League will always have things going for it which union won't. It is much faster and much simpler which some people are going to prefer. I think without players going for the big hits it will be at about the same physicality level as rugby union. I don't think rugby union has lost anything from the crackdown. The only bad thing is that yellow and red cards are given too often for my liking. I don't know if league fans will be able to say the same thing about league.
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No doubt there will be some contributors from last century who will remember the exceptional Waikato rugby man then NRL winger and champion goal kicker Daryl Halligan. The link is to a success story that I came across today, including a photo revealing just how pleased he is. I expect it will please you too.
There are two Australian rugby names who also get a mention in the media piece, one of whom is bagged mercilessly by some contributors, despite achieving giddy heights and then going on with grand success, borne of hard work, after retirement. I do not remember the other bloke but I understand he earned his place too.
The adults here will appreciate these two fellows are feeling just as satisfied as your Daryl Halligan.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld It's not like Kearns doesn't bring it on himself. You can still be an idiot and be successful. The world is full of successful idiots.
But well done to his daughter as well as Halligan's and the other fella. Dad's being proud of their kids is always nice to see regardless of their standing.
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Aaaand we have reached the end game at Canberra. Seems like there has been a massive disconnect somewhere. They have assumed the biggest basket case crown off Brisbane.
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It was revealed on NRL 360 on Tuesday night Williams texted the Raiders’ welfare officer to inform the club he didn’t feel up to training or playing this weekend, and later in the day the club cut ties with him.
Williams defended himself and hit back at the club on social media after the story broke.
“I text to explain my mental wellbeing to the welfare manager,” Williams wrote.
“I asked for a release weeks ago for the end of the season … Not once did I ask for an immediate release, but instead of supporting me the club kicked me out the door. Plus I’ve not even signed the release.”
Canberra teammates Jack Wighton, Josh Papalii, Curtis Scott, Joe Tapine, Sia Soliola and Hudson Young liked the post on Instagram. There have been reports of discontent in Canberra as the side struggles this season and teammates liking Williams’ social media post will only add to suspicions all is not well in the nation’s capital.
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@donsteppa perhaps the players finally see the Ricky Stewart we do
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"revealed on 360" my fucking ass
King flogs Hooper and Kent were unloading on him because they accepted the Ricky Stuart version of events. Williams tweeted his side, and they sat their like the fucking idiots they are knowing they had been publicly shown up as massive piston wristed gibbons
NRL360 is the dumbest, lowbrow, collection of fuckwits on any sports show. Just bottom-feeding germs who are wrong about nearly everything.
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@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
As someone critical of the concussion ignorance in the nrl, some dues are due for their efforts to fix things. Interesting the response is similar to union fans and followers but the leaguies have taken their medicine late and in a big dose.
Been amusing watching pundits come to terms with it all
Like rugby they'll come round over time and the cries of "taken the tough out of the game" will be replaced by "what a dumb tackle, no sympathy".
Of course the real litmus test will be Oooorrigiiiin! Will they have the balls to remove the reason why anyone from outside the Oz Eastern coast watches it?
'spose they'll have to.
I agree with you, I like the fact they have had the balls to go really hard at this given the core of their support is not ready for it. Long overdue and following slowly in rugby footsteps (if they dont back track). Origin will be interesting
Something we tend not to appreciate in NZ is that ACC shields rugby and league from liability for injuries sustained from reckless and negligent tackling. Australia obviously has some workers comp and other plans, but banning high tackles and working on concussion issues in league sound like even better ideas when potential liability is considered.
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@raznomore said in NRL 2021:
I played both to fairly respectable levels and league is not a thinking man's game. I enjoyed playing it more looking back, but I'm not a thinking man..... But I did enjoy the finer darker arts of union.
I also think that people who disregard league as a thugs game without skill are fuckwits. Not that @hydro11 said that. But there is a fair level of hate leveled at league by union old boys. Nothing new it's been that way forever. I was in my 7th form year when it was finally allowed, to play league as well as union by my school. I had played league on the sly for years before and it was good to not have to hide. Seems so fucking stupid that it was banned the way it was by so many schools.
I remember being hammered by St Bernard's 1st XV 2 weeks previous to playing their league team. We smashed them(we won by 10...) lol and they had about 8 of their 1st string union guys playing.
I think as I grew up in the provinces I never came across this at all, and TBH I feel the hate going the other way is way more substantial. Especially here in Oz. Rugby is basically the equivalent to having Aids to a huge bunch of the leaguies over here.
Our school didn't have a league team, but that was historical as I'm not sure league was ever huge in Hawkes Bay, league was played on Sundays via clubs. And there weren't many in my league team that weren't in school rugby teams as well. Playing league wasn't banned, although I expect some overzealous coaches tried to stop their players from backing up on Sunday.
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I think as I grew up in the provinces I never came across this at all, and TBH I feel the hate going the other way is way more substantial. Especially here in Oz. Rugby is basically the equivalent to having Aids to a huge bunch of the leaguies over here.
Our school didn't have a league team, but that was historical ... league was played on Sundays via clubs. And there weren't many in my league team that weren't in school rugby teams as well. ...".
I played both (decades ago, last century) rugby on Saturdays and league on Sundays for a bludge - league was simpler. More young blokes played then, many played both codes, and there was no antipathy either way at player level in inner western Sydney. No doubt the bureaucracy was fully engaged then in the internecine warfare I discovered in rugby after I departed the field and became involved in juniors.
Rugby was physically more demanding, and mentally too for a young fella learning about captaincy and having to make decisions (whether to kick or put down a scrum and such). Hard work having to think after spending the past hour trudging from scrum to ruck to lineout to maul.
I was a loose head and an "open side". League then had proper scrums in which the prop and the halfback's combination was important - one could just about rake the ball from the half's hands with the outside leg. Being tall I jumped and I recall several 180° law changes occurring over lifting.
They were grand days for a young fella - summer spent mastering body surfing (too big and clumsy to ride a board) and boxing, winters back on the paddock, no responsibility other than serving my professional cadetship during the week, fabulous coaches, good mates. If a wymminses nagged you a second time she got the sack. I loved it.
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well well, the charges against Jack de Belin have been dropped after two unsuccessful trials. And he is now free to play NRL after the better part of 3 years.
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@mariner4life im waiting to see what happens next in this space, since charges dropped does he now go after NRL for loss of income?
..I have no idea for the record ..just spitballing
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@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
@mariner4life im waiting to see what happens next in this space, since charges dropped does he now go after NRL for loss of income?
..I have no idea for the record ..just spitballing
i reckon he might given didn't he take them to court about the stand-down at the time?
if he has any sort of case (i don't know the wording of the policy) then you would think it's worth a crack
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@mariner4life Hooper and Kent are the biggest twats in the game especially Hooper. He's wrong about everything yet still plays victim when he gets found out for the shit he talks. Stuart is a twat too as he leaks everything in his side to his mate Paul Kent who never has anything good to say about the game.
The only one who speaks any sort of sense is Lara Pitt but she just gets bullied out of every discussion by Kent and Hooper even though she's more accurate with her info than they are.
They way Kent and Hooper were defending Stuart and the Raiders management over the players the other night was embarrassing. The game ould be better off without those two mongs.
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@african-monkey I've seen the clip of Lara Pitt making a very valid point and those two jerk-offs just dismissing her. it's the very definition of "mansplaining"
the two dumb pricks argue with current players about the current game! it defies belief.
deadshits.
I am loving the kicking they are getting on social media
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2021:
well well, the charges against Jack de Belin have been dropped after two unsuccessful trials. And he is now free to play NRL after the better part of 3 years.
And the person who dragged his name through the mud?
I know, I know, nobody wants to think of the other side of the coin...
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2021:
@african-monkey I've seen the clip of Lara Pitt making a very valid point and those two jerk-offs just dismissing her. it's the very definition of "mansplaining"
the two dumb pricks argue with current players about the current game! it defies belief.
deadshits.
I am loving the kicking they are getting on social media
God, don't give it oxygen otherwise we're all compared to those wankstains.
Broncos any chance tonight fella?
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Broncos any chance tonight fella?
no
well, if they turn up like last week, or when they took the Panthers all the way. But they haven't backed up a decent performance all year
Melbourne are starting to get thin on troops though so stranger things have happened
The bookies give them no hope.
