Australia v India
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Interesting to hear that about Lalor, generally like his work. Also a real bleeding heart lefty which puts him at odds with a lot of other journos at the Oz.
It's an absorbing test so far, great to see a pitch that has a bit in it for everyone. India were made to work for their runs, but stuck to their task admirably. I wonder if the Australian top order will be able to show similar restraint. 300 looks a pretty decent first innings total if they can get there.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Interesting to hear that about Lalor, generally like his work. Also a real bleeding heart lefty which puts him at odds with a lot of other journos at the Oz.
It's an absorbing test so far, great to see a pitch that has a bit in it for everyone. India were made to work for their runs, but stuck to their task admirably. I wonder if the Australian top order will be able to show similar restraint. 300 looks a pretty decent first innings total if they can get there.
Kohli's runout changed the day, i thought India were on top at that point given how late it was. Runs on the board are good, but those last few wickets swung it Australia's way. First session this morning is crucial
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Reading some commentary this morning. The difference in the level of insight provided by Ponting and Michael Clarke is startling. Clarke is a simpleton better suited to the matey dipshit Ch9 commentary days.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
Reading some commentary this morning. The difference in the level of insight provided by Ponting and Michael Clarke is startling. Clarke is a simpleton better suited to the matey dipshit Ch9 commentary days.
Tragically I only have access to Fox commentary at the moment, and it really sucks. One of the reasons is they kept the same producer as in the Ch 9 days (Brad McNamara), and unsurprisingly it's the same matey rubbish
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Interesting to hear that about Lalor, generally like his work. Also a real bleeding heart lefty which puts him at odds with a lot of other journos at the Oz.
i didn't hear the whole segment, but his time was spent saying the story for the morning papers would be the disgraceful non-review of the tiny Kohli edge.
When Ponting was saying he can completely understand the non-review due to the fact it barely kissed a glove, Lalor started scoffing. Then pulled the "these blokes get paid a lot of money..." Ponting rightly points out it wasn't a howler, and therefore not what DRS is actually for, and Lalor starts up with "maybe the story is Ponting again sticks up for his mates at Cricket Australia"
At that point Ponting did not speak again until after the segment ended.
It was extraordinarily disrespectful, and downright rude. And it reeked of arrogance and entitlement.
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The problem with a lot of commentary these days is this compulsion to talk non-stop.
It's particularly problematic in test cricket with so much time and often large periods without 'action'.
They haven't figured out that it's about quality comments not quanity of comments.
Rigor and Warney absolutely fall into this category.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
The problem with a lot of commentary these days is this compulsion to talk non-stop.
It's particularly problematic in test cricket with so much time and often large periods without 'action'.
They haven't figured out that it's about quality comments not quanity of comments.
Rigor and Warney absolutely fall into this category.
I was thinking this yesterday, with the America's Cup footage - wondering what the hell Scott Stevenson's qualifications are to suddenly be commentating every sport there is. And I think it's just that he is perfectly able, and definitely willing, to just never... shut... up.
I don't get why some people seem to be so disturbed by even a short silence... in sports coverage, in a work call, at the pub, just in life in general.
Here's a hint - if you're just saying something to fill the silence, you're probably saying something fucking inane, and you're harming - not helping - the conversation/commentary. -
@Kruse Yep.
Americas Cup - I even wanted to hear some of the mics on the boats without it being talked over. Just to listen to the "apparent wind" (just for you) noise with those machines smoking along at about 90kph.
Sometimes less really is more.
Most test cricket fans have been watching cricket for years and I don't need, or want, the "he's using a DF bat" comments. I couldn't give a shit. Sometimes I think that it is the inane comments that put me to sleep on the sofa, not the sport.
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@Kruse This times 100.
We can see the fucking pictures so don't tell us what happened. Tell us why / what should have happened / what could happen. i.e. add to the pictures and if you can't do that shut the fuck up.
and don't make shit up to try and look clever coz it won't work.
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It's a fine line. Silence is useful in cricket, but too much can be boring. There is so much downtime in the game.
I like the odd anecdote. A dry focus on the game can be really tedious too.
I think Kerry O'Keefe is really good at straddling this line, and he's the shining light of the Fox coverage. Knows when to have a laugh, but can bring it instantly back with an incisive comment about Pujara's record at Adelaide, or Kohli's front foot play.
Whereas a guy like Warnie doesn't have that instinct. He'll drone on about pizza for hours if you let him.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
It's a fine line. Silence is useful in cricket, but too much can be boring. There is so much downtime in the game.
I like the odd anecdote. A dry focus on the game can be really tedious too.
I think Kerry O'Keefe is really good at straddling this line, and he's the shining light of the Fox coverage. Knows when to have a laugh, but can bring it instantly back with an incisive comment about Pujara's record at Adelaide, or Kohli's front foot play.
Whereas a guy like Warnie doesn't have that instinct. He'll drone on about pizza for hours if you let him.
I love listening to O'Keefe. I like the NZ and Aus commentary on the whole. There are a few times you shake your head but I have never put off the game at the time because of it.
I also like the competitive Banter the comms sometimes have between themselves.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
It's a fine line. Silence is useful in cricket, but too much can be boring. There is so much downtime in the game.
I like the odd anecdote. A dry focus on the game can be really tedious too.
I think Kerry O'Keefe is really good at straddling this line, and he's the shining light of the Fox coverage. Knows when to have a laugh, but can bring it instantly back with an incisive comment about Pujara's record at Adelaide, or Kohli's front foot play.
Whereas a guy like Warnie doesn't have that instinct. He'll drone on about pizza for hours if you let him.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
For all that we occasionally bemoan Warnie, the worst for me is Allan Border. Drier than the Sahara, the bloke is a dead-set energy tampon.
LAUGH!!!!!
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The Fox team shut up for a couple of overs before tea yesterday and turned the stump mic up, and the Aussies round the batsman had some great banter going... convinced Paine to give Marnus a crack cos 'he's gonna crack 200 test wickets'. That was some of the better commentary I saw all day.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
For all that we occasionally bemoan Warnie, the worst for me is Allan Border. Drier than the Sahara, the bloke is a dead-set energy tampon.
I was listening to Jim Maxwell and the ABC yesterday, synced up to the pictures. Sensational; really good comms. Fair and balanced (tongue in cheek), and good to listen to
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@delicatessen said in Australia v India:
The Fox team shut up for a couple of overs before tea yesterday and turned the stump mic up, and the Aussies round the batsman had some great banter going... convinced Paine to give Marnus a crack cos 'he's gonna crack 200 test wickets'. That was some of the better commentary I saw all day.
Yeah, that was brilliant! Head was getting grief too
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@Hooroo said in Australia v India:
@delicatessen said in Australia v India:
The Fox team shut up for a couple of overs before tea yesterday and turned the stump mic up, and the Aussies round the batsman had some great banter going... convinced Paine to give Marnus a crack cos 'he's gonna crack 200 test wickets'. That was some of the better commentary I saw all day.
Yeah, that was brilliant! Head was getting grief too
Speaking of commentary - The 12th man could have field day with some of the those names in that post alone. I don't like the sound of "Head giving Paine to Myanus" for example.
It could all get quite interesting depending on where the innings fall into the night sessions.
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@barbarian I agree but that's between overs or an ongoing conversation as a bowler walks back not during the action. Plus it has to be passably interesting not a self indulgent wank fest or auditory fast food - quick, cheap and of no inherent value.
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@dogmeat said in Australia v India:
@barbarian I agree but that's between overs or an ongoing conversation as a bowler walks back not during the action. Plus it has to be passably interesting not a self indulgent wank fest or auditory fast food - quick, cheap and of no inherent value.
Off to the GOM thread with you!
