Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years
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@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
SL
Sangakara
Murali
JayawardneTwo more options available
Aravinda
And I've got a soft spot for Chaminda Vaas
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@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
Dan gets my vote if nothing else for the years he spent carrying us. Bowl a shitload on an unsuitable deck. Take wickets. Also keep the scoring rate down. Also come in at 5-120 and score 70-odd to avoid the follow-on. I'm surprised he can walk given his back must be wrecked.
Haha, I remember as a kid I used to think it was great when we didn't avoid the follow on as I got to see us bat again. Bearing in mind watching us bowl usually involved watching the opposition post 500+
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@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
England
Beefy
Holy shit, tough here.....Gooch, Cook ?
England haven’t in all honestly had many test legends that stand out ( willing to be corrected )
England were dogshit for ages.
Jimmy Anderson is as good a swing bowler as there has been.
Pietersen ? Style and a bit of mongrel.
England have had a bunch of ‘good’ players over this period but fuck all legends.
Based on that Gooch and Boycott get in. Bob Willis too ?
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@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
SL
Sangakara
Murali
JayawardneTwo more options available
Aravinda
And I've got a soft spot for Chaminda Vaas
Herath also took over 400 wickets
My soft spot is for Jayasuriya who got me in a lot of troubles with drinking games through the nineties lol, not a bad player either
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@bayimports said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
SL
Sangakara
Murali
JayawardneTwo more options available
Aravinda
And I've got a soft spot for Chaminda Vaas
Herath also took over 400 wickets
My soft spot is for Jayasuriya who got me in a lot of troubles with drinking games through the nineties lol, not a bad player either
even as i typed out Vaas i knew Herath was the better choice. I just really liked Chaminda, that's all
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@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
Pakistan
Imran
Miandad
Wasim
WaqarHmmmmm maybe the fat potato ?
Mohummad Yousef / Yousef Youhana
bloody good lists but we are missing Younis Khan who was their only guy to score over 10k runs
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@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
Windies
Richards
Marshall
Lara
Ambrose
Still deciding on a fifthGiven 50 years hits the 70's this is tough
Sobers, Greenidge, Lloyd, Holding, Garner, Walsh
and more recently Chanderpaul
this is a tough 5!
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@bayimports said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
Windies
Richards
Marshall
Lara
Ambrose
Still deciding on a fifthGiven 50 years hits the 70's this is tough
Sobers, Greenidge, Lloyd, Holding, Garner, Walsh
and more recently Chanderpaul
this is a tough 5!
Sobers misses out cos of the time frame
I’d have to pick Garner, Holding or Walsh out of that bunch.
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@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
England
Beefy
Holy shit, tough here.....Gooch, Cook ?
England haven’t in all honestly had many test legends that stand out ( willing to be corrected )
England were dogshit for ages.
Jimmy Anderson is as good a swing bowler as there has been.
Pietersen ? Style and a bit of mongrel.
England have had a bunch of ‘good’ players over this period but fuck all legends.
Based on that Gooch and Boycott get in. Bob Willis too ?
I would argue the quality of Root is there now, Cook kills on runs, but best over 50 years, I doubt, maybe lol? Broad has 500 wickets too
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@mariner4life said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
SL
Sangakara
Murali
JayawardneTwo more options available
Aravinda
And I've got a soft spot for Chaminda Vaas
Agree, 300 test wickets still means something even now, but especially from countries that play less test cricket like us and Sri Lanka.
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right will give the aussies a go
Warne, McGrath, Ponting, S Waugh ..... and Steve Smith I would argue is there now
too many over achieving convicts mentions to list and easily select a another 5 players
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@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
India
Gavaskar
Dev
Tendulkar
Dravid
KohliProbably spot on, Kumble also honorable mention
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@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
England
Beefy
Holy shit, tough here.....Gooch, Cook ?
England haven’t in all honestly had many test legends that stand out ( willing to be corrected )
Botham
Willis (300+ wickets when they really meant something)
Alan Knott (contender for best wicket keeper ever)
Anderson
Gooch (genuine great opener)Tony Greig, Cook, Gower and Boycott would also be solid options.
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@bayimports there's a solid argument for Smith being first on the list, dare I say it
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@Siam said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@MN5 Greenidge because I had breakfast with him and he knows my name - "kiwi", (but I don't think he likes me...😒, I was a bit too "needy" I think)
ha ha, I met the universe boss last year and I also think I had too many questions for his liking and probably came across a bit annoying, still I was drunk and had fun asking
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@Crucial said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
Tests:
M Crowe
KW
R Taylor
HadleeConsidering Turner (but then you'd also have to consider Rigor who has a similar record), Reid (not enough tests?), Bond (not enough tests? Clearly our best strike rate), Baz (not our best keeper and also not among the best bats, but as a bat/keeper? up there). Vettori or Fleming as most test contributions. It's quite hard.
If I apply the criteria of who would be is discussion for a spot in a world XI? Def the ones named plus maybe Bond, maybe Watling (although his stats are very good he would probably be 5th or 6th choice behind much stronger candidates like Dhoni and Gilchrist.)
@MN5 said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@NTA said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
@Crucial said in Five Greatest Black Caps of the Past 50 years:
Test? ODI? Seperate lists?
Mate just try to get to 5 first
You wouldn’t be so cocky if the A stood for Afghanistan.
Fuck me, some legends would miss out on the top five aussies though.
Ponting wouldn’t make my team just as one example.
He would if 'A' stood for asshole.
Mate, who do you think was a better keeper. Focussing on just that I can't recall Baz dropping many, Parore did, but maybe fatguts commentator was the tidiest of all?
