NFL 2015
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Not a bad break, his fend is going to cause trouble for some defenders who lack that technical skill of tackling. Talk is the coaching staff want to use him as a utility option (running back/kick return/safety).</p></blockquote>CGW showed footage of two nice kick returns too. Tomsula was non-committal but you can't help but be impressed. I know it's only preseason but Hayne looks like he belongs in the league -
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<p>CGW showed footage of two nice kick returns too. Tomsula was non-committal but you can't help but be impressed. I know it's only preseason but Hayne looks like he belongs in the league</p>
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<p>I am already amazed that he has got to where he has (pre-season games) in such a specialised sport. If he makes a starting roster, I will be blown away. Surely one of the great cross code sporting achievements of all time - to come from League to a helmeted game like that. Amazing stuff and well done to him. When he started, I didn't believe he would have a show.</p> -
<p>Dude is dreaming...</p>
<p> </p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://deadspin.com/report-eli-manning-wants-to-be-nfls-highest-paid-playe-1724768166'>Report: Eli Manning Wants To Be NFL's Highest-Paid Player</a> -
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<p>Dude is dreaming...</p>
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://deadspin.com/report-eli-manning-wants-to-be-nfls-highest-paid-playe-1724768166'>Report: Eli Manning Wants To Be NFL's Highest-Paid Player</a>
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<p>Report: NZZP wants to be NFL's highest paid player, realises he spends too much time on couch drinking beer</p> -
He'll probably win the superbowl again now. Worth more than Rivers but not more than Big Ben however.
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<p>FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/sports/rugby/jarryd-hayne-an-australian-rugby-star-gives-49ers-a-much-needed-jolt-of-optimism.html?_r=0'>http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/sports/rugby/jarryd-hayne-an-australian-rugby-star-gives-49ers-a-much-needed-jolt-of-optimism.html?_r=0</a></p>
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<p>Hayne with a couple of eye catching returns this morning</p>
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<p>And now a big gain from running back. He's certainly giving this a real shot. </p>
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<p>I know bugger all about NFL - but he seems to be going pretty well. This footage is from the pre season game earlier this morning:</p>
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<p>No doubt we'll see a few more NFL talent scouts in this part of the world over the next couple years....</p> -
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I know bugger all about NFL - but he seems to be going pretty well. This footage is from the pre season game earlier this morning:</span></p>
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<p>Calling it - the Hayne Plane will be the kick and punt returner for the 49ers and 3rd string RB behind Carlos Hyde and Reggie Bush. Might be worth a free agent pick up in some of my larger fantasy leagues.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">No doubt we'll see a few more NFL talent scouts in this part of the world over the next couple years....</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Which would be a worry for NRL/Super Rugby teams which have those power-type fullback/wings (Inglis, Folau etc).</span></p> -
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<p>Calling it - the Hayne Plane will be the kick and punt returner for the 49ers and 3rd string RB behind Carlos Hyde and Reggie Bush. Might be worth a free agent pick up in some of my larger fantasy leagues.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Which would be a worry for NRL/Super Rugby teams which have those power-type fullback/wings (Inglis, Folau etc).</span></strong></p>
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<p>Imagine RTS as a kick return!?!?! Warriors will be getting nervous. I think Inglis is probably past his prime (although I also said Hayne had no chance of making it).....</p> -
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<p>Canefan - agree on Inglis. Slater may have been a little small?</p>
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<p>I honestly thought Jarryd had no chance. There are so many talented US college players who've grown up playing the game. I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong - which appears almost certain now....</p> -
<p>Preface: I have a very basic understanding of the game of grid iron, but none of its intricacies.</p>
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<p>I honestly thought Jarryd had no chance. There are so many talented US college players who've grown up playing the game. I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong - which appears almost certain now....</p>
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<p>Is it a case then of these guys being skilled at fitting the mould but not necessarily breaking it? Being programmed into the system? One thing I noticed when watching College football with a mate (who is into the sport bigtime) is that its more adventurous than the NFL because of the way the game has evolved.</p>
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<p>Hayne has years of professional sport and working in space - though here he's relying on blockers doing their job. The field is narrower, but there are less blokes once you're through the line who are likely to get back there, and if you make that 10 yards that is what the coach wants, most of the time.</p>
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<p>Imagine a scenario where the 49ers put another punt returner or a wide receiver/running back on the field, and teach them pass and catch. Let he and Hayne work off each other, and while you lose a potential blocker, the threat of passing the ball - while not acceptable in terms of the percentage plays of the modern game - a heck of a threat to my eyes. Everyone zeroes in on the ball carrier because its only one target. If Hayne threw a dummy pass today, no-one would buy it and he'd get annihilated. But what if he DID get an offload away to a guy two yards away who sprints, untouched, to the end zone? Next game, people would be watching out for that shit.</p>
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Yes. It's actively encouraged. Watch how the runners/receivers hold the ball when heading for contact. <br><br>
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<p>Imagine a scenario where the 49ers put another punt returner or a wide receiver/running back on the field, and teach them pass and catch. Let he and Hayne work off each other, and while you lose a potential blocker, the threat of passing the ball - while not acceptable in terms of the percentage plays of the modern game - a heck of a threat to my eyes. Everyone zeroes in on the ball carrier because its only one target. If Hayne threw a dummy pass today, no-one would buy it and he'd get annihilated. But what if he DID get an offload away to a guy two yards away who sprints, untouched, to the end zone? Next game, people would be watching out for that shit.</p>
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<p>People would lose their shit IF the coach ever agreed to it.</p>
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<p>I made the same comments to some family friends when visiting North America a few years ago and they looked at me like I was a complete idiot. Possession is just treasured so highly - it would take a coach with a massive risk tolerance to call the play during an actual game (even a college game). </p>
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<p>Further to M4L's comments on the carrying style - the other week I'm sure I saw Jarryd catch the ball with that weird arms crossed over style. I can understand wrapping it up like that when going into contact against massive defensive linemen but it's hard to imagine a more awkward way to try and actually catch a football. Sooooo many things he's had to unlearn to make it this far. Respect. </p> -
Yea they don't so much catch as cuddle the ball until they are in the clear
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<p>I made the same comments to some family friends when visiting North America a few years ago and they looked at me like I was a complete idiot. Possession is just treasured so highly - it would take a coach with a massive risk tolerance to call the play during an actual game (even a college game). </p>
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<p>It is an amazing thing for americans to see a lateral pass in football. Basically it is seen as a trick play, I've never seen one in the pros, only at college level, from one non QB player to another</p>
