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<p>I saw the add on ESPN, the Hayne Plane is set to drop in on MNF for his NFL debut. I hope he tears it up!! :good1: :good1: :good1:</p>
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<p>He might not be dressed for the game from what I read from some of the 49ers beat writers.</p> -
<p>For those in Aussie who are interested - <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://ussportsdownunder.com/australian-nfl-tv-guide/ '>https://ussportsdownunder.com/australian-nfl-tv-guide/ </a></p>
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<p>*Edit - that link hasn't worked for some reason, it's the Australian NFL TV Guide down the bottom of the page which I was trying to share....</p> -
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<p>He might not be dressed for the game from what I read from some of the 49ers beat writers.</p>
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<p>Lovely, Americans will think NRL means Naked Rugby League.</p>
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<p>Being American sport - I wonder if the son of the owners, 49ers CEO Jed York, gets in the ear of coach Tomsula and 'suggests' he give Hayne some game time....</p>
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<p>That is certainly very possible. Happening in DC right now with RG3 still being on the team due to the owner</p> -
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<p>The hype is off the charts isn't it?</p>
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<p>What's going to happen when Aussies tune in for the first game and sit down for three hours only to realise he isn't going to play a second?</p>
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<p>Yeah I'm waiting for the NRL media to collapse under the weight of its own circle-jerk. Like they were somehow personally responsible for Hayne busting his arse to get onto the roster.</p>
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<p>Being American sport - I wonder if the son of the owners, 49ers CEO Jed York, gets in the ear of coach Tomsula and 'suggests' he give Hayne some game time....</p>
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<p>The dynamic for NFL will be interesting. Australia isn't a huge market for the sport, but , but it offers them another avenue for raising a bit of capital, so maybe they'll start to look at it a bit.</p>
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<p>Is it me or is the pre-draft rankings a bit broken?</p>
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<p>Good to go with 10 gents. I have no idea who teams 9 and 10 are but if they turn out to be nuts or something I can always boot them.</p>
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<p>NZ Tab represented by two blokes (teams 7 and so you know the odds now beat them etc.</p>
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<p>Speaking of that I was looking through division winner odds yesterday and liked Dolphins to win East and Chiefs in West, both around $5 I think.</p> -
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<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Good to go with 10 gents. I have no idea who teams 9 and 10 are but if they turn out to be nuts or something I can always boot them.</span></blockquote>
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<p>Draft is done and I got AP, Lacy and Beastmode. Rest of my team sucks but getting the top 3 players in the draft is cool.</p>
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<p>And Dugan in the NFL....pfft, tell him he's dreaming.</p>
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<p>Marty Kapow is also wanting to try out for a NFL team. He might have a better chance plus I wouldn't want to be the person to tell him he's dreaming.</p> -
<p>Annnddd the NFL season is officially underway with Tom Brady and his lawyer leading the Pats to a 28-21 win, with a bit of help from the Gronk. Brady 4 TDs of which Gronk caught three and Roger Goodell is having a hissy fit somewhere.</p>
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<p>Apparently - not that you'd notice it with Haynemania going on - an Australian kicked a ball for the Steelers. Twice.</p>
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<p>But yeah, sidelight to the big show of Hayne <em>not</em> playing for Minnesota.</p>
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<p>Why are you so down on this Nick?? It's an incredible achievement and the coverage is totally justified.</p>
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<p>Sure some of the stuff might be a bit of overkill, but Hayne stories are the most clicked on every day on the major sites. They aren't doing it for no reason, people really care about this.</p> -
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<p>Apparently - not that you'd notice it with Haynemania going on - an Australian kicked a ball for the Steelers. Twice.</p>
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<p>Come on FFS Nick. I love your shit slinging at the NRL as much as the next guy but who the fuck gives two shits about a kicker?</p>
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<p>Hayne is exciting to watch and its not only the bogans back home who think so.</p>
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<p>Jerry Rice, who many consider the greatest NFL player ever, sees himself in Hayne and has said that they must get him the ball when ever possible. That is a remarkable compliment.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.foxsports.com.au/us-sports/jarryd-hayne-nfl-jerry-rice-says-hayne-has-very-deceptive-speed-that-was-something-i-always-had/story-e6frf6ju-1227521817568'>http://www.foxsports.com.au/us-sports/jarryd-hayne-nfl-jerry-rice-says-hayne-has-very-deceptive-speed-that-was-something-i-always-had/story-e6frf6ju-1227521817568</a></p> -
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<p>Why are you so down on this Nick?? It's an incredible achievement and the coverage is totally justified.</p>
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<p>Coverage of the events are justified, and I have <em>never</em> belittled his achievement. The kickers who have gone over there - as Raz says - are amazing to Yanks because they don't really kick that well.</p>
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<p>I defy anyone to say that guys like Brad Wing or Sav Rocca didn't work their arses off as much as Hayne, but then their use on the field is quite limited due to the way the game is played.</p>
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<p>So I'm not against coverage as such, but there are limits:</p>
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<p>"HEY LOOK AT THIS PHOTO! THE SKINNY AUSSIE GUY AT THE BACK HAS A CONTRACT AND...UH... <em><strong>ONE</strong></em> OTHER GUY DOESN'T! AMAZEBALLS RIGHT?"</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-has-last-laugh-over-that-shirtless-photo/story-fnq2nnu6-1227517168473'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-has-last-laugh-over-that-shirtless-photo/story-fnq2nnu6-1227517168473</a></p>
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<p>"HEY LOOK! THE 49ers COACH IS PLAYING HIS CARDS CLOSE TO HIS CHEST - <u><strong>TWICE</strong></u> - BUT IN ONE ARTICLE WE ASK SOME OTHER GUYS WHAT THEIR OPINION IS!"</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/san-francisco-49ers-coach-jim-tomsula-plays-jarryd-hayne-card-close-to-chest-ahead-of-vikings-clash/story-fnq2nnu6-1227519156414'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/san-francisco-49ers-coach-jim-tomsula-plays-jarryd-hayne-card-close-to-chest-ahead-of-vikings-clash/story-fnq2nnu6-1227519156414</a></p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/ers-coach-keeping-hayne-card-close-to-his-chest/story-fnq2nnu6-1227518902428'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/ers-coach-keeping-hayne-card-close-to-his-chest/story-fnq2nnu6-1227518902428</a></p>
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<p>"FUCKING HELL ANOTHER SHROUD OF MYSTERY AND/OR SIGN HAYNE IS STARTING! TOMSULA, YOU CHEEKY DEVIL!"</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/san-francisco-49ers-release-unofficial-depth-chart/story-fnq2nnu6-1227520623420'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/san-francisco-49ers-release-unofficial-depth-chart/story-fnq2nnu6-1227520623420</a></p>
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<p>"TOMSULA IS AT IT AGAIN! ITS LIKE THE GUY DOESN'T WANT TO RUIN THE SURPRISE FOR US! WHEN WILL THAT FUNSTER OF MIRTH STOP?!!"</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-nfl-san-francisco-49ers-coach-coy-on-starting-line-up/story-fnq2nnu6-1227522108155'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-nfl-san-francisco-49ers-coach-coy-on-starting-line-up/story-fnq2nnu6-1227522108155</a></p>
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<p>That's all within the space of a few days from here: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports</a> (there is even an article on Jordan Berry there)</p>
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<p>Let's face it boys, even Hayne is starting to get the shits with it all:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-every-man-and-their-dog-has-been-interviewed-about-me/story-fnq2nnu6-1227523853557'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-every-man-and-their-dog-has-been-interviewed-about-me/story-fnq2nnu6-1227523853557</a></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><br><p>Hayne was described as “frustrated†and “a little edgier and snappier†by reporters who interviewed him inside the San Francisco 49ers locker room on Saturday (AEST).</p>
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<p>The rugby league convert, who remains in the dark about whether he will make his NFL debut against the Minnesota Vikings on Tuesday, has been extremely professional while dealing with the media since his pursuit of a roster spot at the 49ers really picked up steam a month ago.</p>
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<p>He’s consistently refused to buy into all the adulation that has been directed his way, been careful never to directly compare the NFL to his former home in the NRL and said all the right things about how much he still has to learn about the nuances of the American game.</p>
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<p>“I know you are always looking for a storyline so I have to be careful with what I say and how I say it,†Hayne told reporters on Saturday.</p>
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<p>Because of the intense fascination with his story, anyone with a connection to Hayne, Australia and the NFL, or the 49ers have been quizzed about his transition. And he’s noticed.</p>
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<p>“Every man and their dog has been interviewed about me,†Hayne said.</p>
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<p>“Everyday there’s someone new or someone who has had something to do with me. For me, like I said. I don’t control that. That’s what you guys are doing, not me. That’s not my thing.â€</p>
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<p>Asked if he thought the hype would die down now he’s made San Francisco’s 53-man roster, Hayne was unsure. “That’s up to you, not to me,†he said. “You’re the ones holding the cameras and asking the questions. So, that’s out of my control.â€</p>
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<p>Hayne’s patience was tested further today when one reporter asked him when he was going to showcase his famous “Hayne plane†celebration. For a man who knows full well his chances of even getting on the field in the season-opener remain in limbo, it was hard not to bite. “I don’t know mate, I’m not worried about that,†he said.</p>
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<p>That very article goes on to cover "HAYNE'S FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!" which was previously covered here:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-has-a-list-of-first-world-problems-since-moving-to-the-nfl/story-fnq2nnu6-1227521487351'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/jarryd-hayne-has-a-list-of-first-world-problems-since-moving-to-the-nfl/story-fnq2nnu6-1227521487351</a></p>
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<p>I'm shocked that there hasn't been an article relating to an increased number of de-gloved penis injuries among NRL fans and/or media, to be honest.</p>
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<p>Its great for the NFL that they're getting coverage, and I have no problem with the market being opened up, or Hayne being news multiple times per week. But the NRL still have a game to run back here, and they've got their finals on, so I reckon they need to make sure they're not missing the local story.</p>
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<p>After all, once NRL finishes there will be a few months of NFL to cover in that sort of depth. And if they're going to do that, they might as well continue to give a bit of time to the other guys playing NFL while they're at it.</p> -
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<p>I defy anyone to say that guys like Brad Wing or Sav Rocca didn't work their arses off as much as Hayne, but then their use on the field is quite limited due to the way the game is played.</p>
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<p>I would say that Hayne has definitely worked harder, yes. Punting is a skill, sure, but it is a repetitive motion that is easy to pick up if you played AFL (Rocca) or came up through US colleges (like Wing).</p>
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<p>Hayne had to learn a whole raft of skills, as well as learn the playbook and the routes and the formations etc. He had none of these skills when he started.</p>
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<p>The guys who are kickers are impressive for sure, but this is a whole new level of achievement, regardless of who he was before 2015. The fact he's a Dally M medallist only makes it more interesting.</p> -
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No fucking doubt the playbook stuff is difficult, and that deserves applause. I've given it.<br><br>
But you're severely underestimating how big the transition is for kickers, going from e.g. a Sherrin to the pointy seed used in the NFL, and the physiology differences to suit the reasons behind punting. <br><br>
Hang time and the RIGHT distance, and the accuracy required, to be produced in any situation on a narrow field. The goal appears to be not to hit a team mate on the chest - who can run a lead on a field 140m wide in the AFL - but to isolate the runner without sending it too far into their end of the field. -
<p>oh dear, what happened with the fumble?</p>