Otago v Northland
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@taniwharugby said in Otago v Northland:
we will be lucky to get off zero
Nock has made a difference in speeding up the play but they are lacking cohesion in their attack.
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@ACT-Crusader lacking co-ordination between left hand and right hand
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@Duluth said in Otago v Northland:
Robinson and Matich get through a massive amount of work
Gregory is a very busy player too. Seems to be always in the play.
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Jeez, never felt too comfortable, a stretch In the second half it looked like northland were going to come back, the guys that got us out in front just seemed to disappear for big chunks of the second
Hickey surprising good, except the goal kicking
Whaaga had a great game for his first start
Impressed our 99year old front row did +65min!
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In 2020 I don't know how Jamie Mackintosh stayed on the field for that pathetic cheap shot. If the ref AND TMO are going to treat the game like it's the old days then the Northland forwards should've meted out some old school justice of their own.
If Pisi Leilua plays next week after that massive brain fart we've got issues...
Execution and leaving Sam Nock on the bench cost us that game today
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Not sure what word describes how I felt after that.
Sad is probably it, sad for the likes of Matich, Robinson, Olsen, Pryor, Nock who have given thier all week in week out, maintained thier standards, but are let down by school boy errors from those around them.
A basic fundamental of holding onto the ball, we have been woeful with this, steadily getting worse the past few weeks, then there are the dumb decisions, also getting worse by the week.
As to the selections...where to start.
I had been liking what Leilua brings, but this week was terrible, 2 massive errors cost us massively.
Hawkins, well, cant say more than I havent already, he simply isnt upto it at this level driving a team forward, tough buggar on defence, but lacks anything going forward, and this has traditionally been a strength for Northland.
Why bench Nock in arguably the biggest game of the season? You wanna see if the young guy is upto it, ok, so what about Cooper?
Grant wasnt poor or the reason we lost, but he just wasnt what we needed from the outset.
Then there is Wiseguy, I mean he did well stepping in v Manawatu, was ok v Ta$man, but supposedly gets told to go off and work on his kicking, apparently drops his lip, no where to be seen...while if he has a shit attitude, yep, he doesnt deserve to be there, but if he sees the way Hawkins kicks, particularly out of hand, then I'd be pissed too.
I said at the start of the season they needed to hand the reins to Wiseguy or Cooper, and back them, even if they struggle at times...instead of investing in the future, we are holding onto an aging player who has always struggled at this level.
Ranger, jeez, having a shocker season, shows glimpses of his old self, but think he is struggling being that half a yard slower and his decisiom making is still thinking he isnt, cos he is making some howlers.
Gregory tries hard and his confidence seems to be returning, but he needs to be closer to the action, he is not a natural FB.
Looking at the games we have left, I actually think we will be lucky to get any more points on the ladder...we are struggling to score tries, and against NH, Auckland and Waikato, we will be lucky to score many.
A chance of a home semi is gone, we will be lucky to make the top 4 and head back to HB for a semi final.
We need to start looking at 2021, make as many changes as we can, which TBH is pretty limited.
Our pack remains unchanged, on one hand they did pretty well at set piece, and the only area we have quality to make changes (loosies) is the one area where the guys are maintaining thier standards.
Backs:
Goes without saying Nock has to start again
Cooper has to be given a shot to start
Going to start again, probably one of the better players in our 1st half
I'd be inclined to move Gregory here, but it depends on other players fitness, that I will assume
Macilai at 11
Hyland at 14
M Wright at 15ON the MacIntosh incident, any other day, that is a card, accidental or not, still a shoulder to the head, but for me, a minute or so earlier Ross Wright was on the side of a ruck, and an Otago player came in shoulder charged him from the side, looked like connection to the head, and Wright reeled backwards...that one was worse as it was a more deliberate act and right in front of the AR.
I thought we had turned a corner this season, and while I think there seems a good spirit there, there is still something missing.
Fuck, I just shake my head at how poor we were last night.
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@taniwharugby I am so disappointed in the Coaches. This team looks like it has a great culture because when we have won in all of those games they have come from behind at some stage to win. Plus our defence has been great. But instead of building on that, fixing issues with some courageous selections and development of young players we have played the same team and patterns week after week. Then we have a few injuries, the team starts to lose and we have nowhere to go because we have no options. Man management is always difficult but we have repeat offenders in critical positions. We shouldn’t expect players to not make mistakes but with that we want players who can be coached and bring something to the game. As a team they need to find patience - I think the coaches have talked about this all season.
Forward pack - most part really good, though lineout has really fallen away.
Backs ( all over the place )
Hawkins - plays well behind the line which impacts on our attack, slow to kick, weak kick, option taking was really poor last night, courageous defender.
Rene - just needs to be more of a distributor, and reduce his risks.
Leilua - wasn’t his game last night but has played well for most part. But backline has not functioned and he must be frustrated on wing.
Macalai - game of 2 half’s. Mostly dreadful in first. See comments on Leilua.
Gregory - much better last night. Pleased for him. Still looks like he is jogging. Would like to see real intent with his play.
Nock is looking really good.
