Chiefs 2021
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When is Retallick back? 2022?
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
But I am thinking of an experienced lock to complement the young locks. Unfortunately there aren't that many around.
He’s not hugely experienced but Dalzell would be a good pick up for someone. There’s no room for him at the Blues
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@Duluth said in Chiefs 2021:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
But I am thinking of an experienced lock to complement the young locks. Unfortunately there aren't that many around.
He’s not hugely experienced but Dalzell would be a good pick up for someone. There’s no room for him at the Blues
But as you say, Dalzell isn't experienced either, even compared to the other locks in the squad. The Chiefs could just as easily sign someone like Parsons. McMillan might look at one of the BOP locks.
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@Bovidae said in Blues 2021:
@gt12 I would think that the Chiefs already have their 3 hookers sorted. Remember that Harris should be back. There might not be too many contracts available for hookers. Maybe the Highlanders?
We have two good(ish) ones and one shit one don't we? Can't we ship him off?
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@Bovidae said in Blues 2021:
@gt12 Slater will be the 3rd hooker and is likely signed to develop for the future. I still think players from within the franchise area should be preferred.
I don't give a toss about this, it's a franchise system.
Slater is good, I was meaning that we should dump Taukei'aho; he's a hopeless thrower.
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The list of hookers that still have issues with lineout throwing is a long one.
I'm a Taukei'aho fan. It didn't help him or Slater that the Chiefs didn't have any tall locks as targets.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
The list of hookers that still have issues with lineout throwing is a long one.
I'm a Taukei'aho fan. It didn't help him or Slater that the Chiefs didn't have any tall locks as targets.
Is this a coaching issue? I don't see how so many of these guys can all be so poor at it.
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@gt12 It has to be but there are 3 parts to a successful lineout (throw, lifters, jumper). It's not always the hooker's fault unless the throw is crooked.
Taylor has had some average throwing games this season, and he's meant to be one of our best.
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A few hints about the squad (some new talent from within the region and some surprises). I hope the latter is more than just Bryn Gatland.
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I like the look of S. Misa. He is strong and hard. Don't know much about his throwing though.
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Alaimalo off to the Landers on a 3 year deal.
Probably be first choice fullback down there, unless there is someone else that I can't think of right now...??
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@Gunner Hunt and Koroi probably the other options, a big tall bloke as competition will be good for us as if you guys take Gatland Koroi and Hunt are also our 10 cover
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I expect Trask and McKenzie to share 10 and 15 next year, so makes sense for Alaimalo to move if he is keen on 15. Was hoping that Fletcher Smith and Rivez Reihana would both be signed as the alternatives. Interesting to see Stevenson showing so much more consistency for Harbour at fullback. Still hoping to see a big winger recruited, assuming Nanai-Seturo goes to 7's. But Josh Mackay or Jacob Kneepkens would be ok.
Might want a BIG lock (Lord/Selby-Rickett/Van Den Hoven) and a metre-gaining Number 8 (Lamborn, Manu, Messam, K Boshier?) to add depth there. I assume that Xavier Roe, Samepeni Finau and Matt Garland will be recruited.
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Interesting that the Chiefs granted Alaimalo an early release. He'll sign with Southland due to the MacLeod and little bro connection.
Alaimalo has been injured more often than not over the last 2 seasons so neither the Chiefs or Waikato have got value for money.
There are young wingers in the region like Kneepkens and Naholo.
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@Bovidae I think Chiefs need one experienced midfielder to add stability there besides Lienert-Brown, Tupaea seems injury plagued, Manu leaving and will Nankivell be fit for early season? Maybe Wainui moves to centre if they pick up 2 quality wingers?
Depending on who goes to sevens midfielders may be in shortish supply for Super squads, while some good locks may not find a spot. Maybe Tofa from Manawatu or Poihipi back from Canterbury? -
Fair enough. He is a centre where the other three are best suited to 2nd 5. I'd be comfortable with a Nankivell-ALB combo but that means playing ALB at centre.
I'm hoping that Wainui is a considered a bench centre who can play winger in the squad.
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I'd be keen on Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens tbh. He looks great at M10 level. Hopefully Naholo can show us what he's got. Re the midfield, ALB and Nankivell have both been pretty good. I still like Tupaea but he hasn't shown much at Super level.
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Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens, who started playing at the Tukapa Rugby Club in New Plymouth when he was a 4-year-old, has also signed with Taranaki Rugby. And he has been in talks with the Chiefs
From October 2019
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
Fair enough. He is a centre where the other three are best suited to 2nd 5. I'd be comfortable with a Nankivell-ALB combo but that means playing ALB at centre.
I'm hoping that Wainui is a considered a bench centre who can play winger in the squad.
I'd be happy with ALB-Wainui in the midfield as well.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:
I'd be happy with ALB-Wainui in the midfield as well.
I worry about Wainui's distribution at centre. At least there will be options.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
Gatland confirmed.
Really dumb. Really dumb.
He is average at best. I get that they need more 10s on the books but if you really have to, why not just a year?
The nepotism shadow will hold other, better 10s back from signing. Would you join a team where the coach's son played in the same position as you?
I'm sure they will try to keep it all professional but the perception of favouritism will be strong. Especially if Bryn is selected when not playing that well.
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@Crucial I am interested in who the other 1st 5 will be because that will determine the pecking order. Do the Chiefs go for another more experienced player like Smith or promote a young player like Reihana?
I think Trask will be favoured to start but he has been playing fullback most of the NPC.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
@Crucial I am interested in who the other 1st 5 will be because that will determine the pecking order. Do the Chiefs go for another more experienced player like Smith or promote a young player like Reihana?
I think Trask will be favoured to start but he has been playing fullback most of the NPC.
I don't mind that at his stage of development. He gets to shadow a guy with a bit more experience from behind and observe options. He also gets to up his skills when covering the back as 10s are often asked to do now.
Remember that his NPC coach will be his Super coach next year so will be aware of all this.
I just can't see them having anyone other than Gatland as first choice tbh. Whoever they pick as a third (if they even do) will be training fodder unless there are injuries. Even then, more likely that Mac will fill in. -
Where does that leave Fletcher Smith if there is no room for him at the chiefs,As the Canes don't seem to be interested the Blues are covered,Unless its back to the Landers as a swap for Gatland or the Crusaders are looking to replace Cameron.
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I am disappointed by this signing. I like Bryn as a player but feel there are equally good options in the region who may be ignored now. His style sits well with a dominant pack and positional strategy. But that does not seem to be the Chiefs strengths. I expected Trask and Mckenzie to be the playmaker combo next year and someone else wanted to close out or assume tactical control. I see Trask as a future AB and am a bit worried with his rivals Dad coaching. No room for both Fletcher Smith and Rivez Reihana now.
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@Chris said in Chiefs 2021:
Where does that leave Fletcher Smith if there is no room for him at the chiefs,As the Canes don't seem to be interested the Blues are covered,Unless its back to the Landers as a swap for Gatland or the Crusaders are looking to replace Cameron.
Is smith out of contract at the canes, I’d take him back down south but would me more of a 15 that can cover 10...which is how we were using him before...and why he left I believe
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@Kiwiwomble I believe he is. Canes have a hard on for JGB for whatever reason. He'd fit right in with the Chiefs, he's only mid 20s and he hasn't been given a lot of chances at Super level.
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