Chiefs v Highlanders
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I'd also expect Reihana to come into the Chiefs next year. Real shame about Falcon, he's a good player. Maybe Bryn will come home and be coached by dad once he gets back.
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae I still have a few tabs open on my screen Trying to finish something else, first.
Make sure you wipe up and delete the browsing history
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No comment about Fakatava on the bench ?
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Fakatava is on the bench.
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@cgrant said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
No comment about Fakatava on the bench ?
Hammington is out for the SRA season so that was always going to happen.
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@cgrant said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
No comment about Fakatava on the bench ?
we talked about it earlier, excited to see him get a run
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I'm hoping Alaimalo turns up big time, looked good in his 20 or so against the Canes.
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MacKenzie ahead of Stevenson is pretty silly. MacKenzie has been awful in every game so far.
Stevenson should wise up and move home.
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Our best back three (by some distance IMO) is Alaimalo, Dmac, and Stevenson. They are all a Little Rock’s/diamonds but at Super level they are also very useful, each is a useful fullback and kicker (Stevenson’s boot is underrated) plus it gives us size in two of three.
It’s these types of selections that make me wonder what the fuck is going on there.
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
I don't think McKenzie has been awful in every game
Yeah, I was stirring the pot with that, but he's been pretty below par. Must be frustrating for those missing selection.
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@Tim said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
MacKenzie ahead of Stevenson is pretty silly. MacKenzie has been awful in every game so far.
Stevenson should wise up and move home.
Home has never wanted him - as @Yeetyaah says the best combo is DMAc, Stevenson and Alaimalo.
DMac hasn't been as bad as everyone is making out ...
@Tim said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
I don't think McKenzie has been awful in every game
Yeah, I was stirring the pot with that, but he's been pretty below par. Must be frustrating for those missing selection.
As above I don't think it's because of DMac he's missing out.
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@Nepia I disagree, he is being bigged up by the commentary team as he runs around like a blue arsed fly, it looks cool, but doesn't seem to do much for his team. He needs to calm down and take a tactical decision more than he runs sideways around the backfield
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Hooroo The fact that a player is ranked 3rd or lower doesn't mean they're rubbish though.
Right now, in NZ, it kinda does
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Just rated no.3 behind Cruden and Trask.
If Cruden and Trask were injured would he start? Or would they move McKenzie and change they back three?
I suspect he's ranked lower than 3rd
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@Duluth said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Just rated no.3 behind Cruden and Trask.
If Cruden and Trask were injured would he start? Or would they move McKenzie and change they back three?
I suspect he's ranked lower than 3rd
Falcon has been unlucky with his injuries but I am sure he would slot into 1st 5 as DMac wants to concentrate on fullback. He'd be more steady than MMac was.
Trask is still only 21, and in his first year of SR, but he has shown he has a bright future. Go back to the NZ U20 backs which only clicked once Trask moved to 1st 5 and Plummer moved out to 2nd 5. The problem next year will be that he will be the senior pro at 22. Reihana has just turned 20. Some experience would be good.
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@Machpants said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia I disagree, he is being bigged up by the commentary team as he runs around like a blue arsed fly, it looks cool, but doesn't seem to do much for his team. He needs to calm down and take a tactical decision more than he runs sideways around the backfield
That doesn’t happen anywhere near as much as you make out.
When it has (I remember once) it was because play had got very messy and it was a good decision to buy time for others to get reorganised and reset with one eye on opportunity. It looks worse than it is and isn’t necessarily headless -
What DMac should be judged on for AB perspectives is his positioning, defence, kicking from hand, kick receiving, communication from the back and attacking vision.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 As I have mentioned earlier, Wainui seems to be their preferred winger (in 11 or 14). He's safe, and a good defender, but not a game-breaker. A puzzling selection.
Wainui is excellent. Really unappreciated by chiefs fans. Stevenson does about one good thing a game and then spends the rest of his time trying to look cool.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 As I have mentioned earlier, Wainui seems to be their preferred winger (in 11 or 14). He's safe, and a good defender, but not a game-breaker. A puzzling selection.
Wainui is excellent. Really unappreciated by chiefs fans. Stevenson does about one good thing a game and then spends the rest of his time trying to look cool.
He wasn't always though and I guess it's taken a while for that stigma to lift - plus he still looks like a centre on the wing unlike Stevenson, who is really under-appreciated bb Bones.
I'd actually like to see Wainui get some midfield time.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia Stevenson isn't half the player Wainui is! Happy for the Landers to take Wainui off your hands so you can concentrate on that blockbuster pair that are better.
No, I'd like to keep them both. You have so many good backs Walden can't get a run so keep your mitts off ours.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia Stevenson isn't half the player Wainui is! Happy for the Landers to take Wainui off your hands so you can concentrate on that blockbuster pair that are better.
You have so many good backs Walden can't get a run so keep your mitts off ours.
Ouch, but I did laugh.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia Stevenson isn't half the player Wainui is! Happy for the Landers to take Wainui off your hands so you can concentrate on that blockbuster pair that are better.
No, I'd like to keep them both. You have so many good backs Walden can't get a run so keep your mitts off ours.
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He's pretty rocks/diamonds, but his boot has been really under appreciated. He has scored or created a number of great tries for us and with his kicking has helped get us out of trouble on occasion. He's a bit of poor man's James Lowe, but that still makes him better than the other options.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
He's pretty rocks/diamonds, but his boot has been really under appreciated. He has scored or created a number of great tries for us and with his kicking has helped get us out of trouble on occasion. He's a bit of poor man's James Lowe, but that still makes him better than the other options.
Yeah as opposed to Wainui who is just shit eh?
Apart from the many, many more good plays he's been part of. Stevenson reminds me of a 15s version of Ambrose Curtis.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 As I have mentioned earlier, Wainui seems to be their preferred winger (in 11 or 14). He's safe, and a good defender, but not a game-breaker. A puzzling selection.
Wainui is excellent. Really unappreciated by chiefs fans. Stevenson does about one good thing a game and then spends the rest of his time trying to look cool.
He wasn't always though and I guess it's taken a while for that stigma to lift - plus he still looks like a centre on the wing unlike Stevenson, who is really under-appreciated bb Bones.
I'd actually like to see Wainui get some midfield time.
He did end up at centre in the Canes game.
Wainui doesn't really have the top-end speed of a winger, but has played well this year. My comment was more about expecting a little more rotation on the wing but he has been the one constant.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
He's pretty rocks/diamonds, but his boot has been really under appreciated. He has scored or created a number of great tries for us and with his kicking has helped get us out of trouble on occasion. He's a bit of poor man's James Lowe, but that still makes him better than the other options.
Yeah as opposed to Wainui who is just shit eh?
Apart from the many, many more good plays he's been part of. Stevenson reminds me of a 15s version of Ambrose Curtis.
???
This is a story you are the only one telling
Please look up at my post about three posts up
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wainui doesn't really have the top-end speed
That's another myth often brought up as a negative. Got anything to back it up? I've seen him on plenty of breaks, chases and pace has certainly not been an issue.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wainui doesn't really have the top-end speed
That's another myth often brought up as a negative. Got anything to back it up? I've seen him on plenty of breaks, chases and pace has certainly not been an issue.
My eyes at the games relative to other players. Wainui is not a winger who will run around a defender, or beat them on the outside. I am more than happy to be proved wrong tomorrow.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wainui is not a winger who will run around a defender, or beat them on the outside
Your eyes might need attention bro!
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That's really just a straight run to the line after being put into space by ALB. I've also seen Wainui caught from behind with the tryline in front of him.
All I'm saying is that he is a converted centre, so doesn't have the speed of a specialist winger.
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"He can't beat a defender on the outside"
Player beats a defender on the outside (using pace).
"Nah not him"
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Wainui threatens the defence almost every time he gets it. I like his game and right now is the only Chiefs back that looks dangerous.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wainui threatens the defence almost every time he gets it. I like his game and right now is the only Chiefs back that looks dangerous.
I think you left off the obvious part of your post - “ex Crusader”. 😜
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The Chiefs are rich in terms of back three, not so much at lock where the cupboard is bare. This is their main problem, having to choose between Stevenson, Wainui and Alaimalo on the wings isn't one.
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