'Super Rugby' 2021
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@antipodean yeah that went well for them... i can see why teams would be lining up to follow suit.
If your argument is 'you have to cut a team because otherwise we'll get the Brave Blossoms' i think im done here.
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@Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean yeah that went well for them... i can see why teams would be lining up to follow suit.
If your argument is 'you have to cut a team because otherwise we'll get the Brave Blossoms' i think im done here.
no, the argument is mainly
you already cut a team, for very good reasons. Why bring it back?
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@mariner4life Because Twiggy forest is a billionaire and he's chosen to pay for it. We cut it because we couldnt afford it (supposedly). If he is offering to foot the entire bill - why wouldnt we accept it.
But i wouldn't die on a hill for the Force. As you say, they are now separate to RA. The real issue is cutting another team.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean and that why i said 'pipe dream'.
The same pipe dream that had Argentina play SR...
The obvious difference being Argentina didn't have a thriving club competition awash with cash.
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@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
no, the argument is mainly
you already cut a team, for very good reasons. Why bring it back?
Because it's funded by a guy bringing some spare cash, who is probably worth like 10% of NZ's annual GDP.
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@Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean yeah that went well for them... i can see why teams would be lining up to follow suit.
Made last year's final.
If your argument is 'you have to cut a team because otherwise we'll get the Brave Blossoms' i think im done here.
How much easier you must find it to have the argument you wish to have, rather than actually dealing with what the other said.
If SR TT was to have a Japanese side, the precondition would be to not have a SunWolves Mk II scenario, but genuine JRFU support.
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ah yes, the Great Western Hope, who absolutely does stuff out of the goodness of his heart.
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@Kiap said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
no, the argument is mainly
you already cut a team, for very good reasons. Why bring it back?
Because it's funded by a guy bringing some spare cash, who is probably worth like 10% of NZ's annual GDP.
How long do people think he's going to bankroll this vanity project once he no longer gets the recognition? I genuinely don't understand why people are willing to die on the hill for the Force. Only once in their entire SR participation did they finish with a positive points difference. Their highest table position was seventh. Their squad now is a list of unknowns and retirees.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiap said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
no, the argument is mainly
you already cut a team, for very good reasons. Why bring it back?
Because it's funded by a guy bringing some spare cash, who is probably worth like 10% of NZ's annual GDP.
How long do people think he's going to bankroll this vanity project once he no longer gets the recognition? I genuinely don't understand why people are willing to die on the hill for the Force. Only once in their entire SR participation did they finish with a positive points difference. Their highest table position was seventh. Their squad now is a list of unknowns and retirees.
now?
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@barbarian said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The obvious difference being Argentina didn't have a thriving club competition awash with cash.
Yeah, I think it's clear enough that Japan are interested in playing SH teams. Just not so much in a TT-style comp when they have their own regular season, but more a post-season Champs competition
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@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
ah yes, the Great Western Hope, who absolutely does stuff out of the goodness of his heart.
Lol. I never promised you a rose garden.
Still, short of a big fan ownership component, it's a far better option than the likes of CVC.
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Where was Twiggy when FirePower wouldn't pay its bills?
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@Kiap said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
ah yes, the Great Western Hope, who absolutely does stuff out of the goodness of his heart.
Lol. I never promised you a rose garden.
Still, short of a big fan ownership component, it's a far better option than the likes of CVC.
private equity makes no sense to me. Of course i am well aware i am probably missing something.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Where was Twiggy when FirePower wouldn't pay its bills?
2009? Dunno.
Is paying bills now.
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how much does teh Force cost now compared to what a full SuperTT Force would cost?
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The Twiggy thing is a mixture of three things:
- He's an opportunist fluffybunny;
- WA is known for having a wild mistrust of people "over east"; and
- Twiggy combining both things to flog a dead horse and make some mileage out of it.
If we were demonstrably capable of keeping players here with a 5th team, and introducing measures that allowed teams to rise in competitiveness, then I'd say 5 teams would be workable.
As it is, the Force have been plucky, but are hardly a walk-up start. They're an important development resource I think.
Coaching remains a big issue. Oh well and all the fucking connective tissue below that.
If you offer players the opportunity to live and work in Sydney then why the fuck would they take Perth?
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@NTA said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
If you offer players the opportunity to live and work in Sydney then why the fuck would they take Perth?
Sunsets?
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@NTA said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
If you offer players the opportunity to live and work in Sydney then why the fuck would they take Perth?
Sydney is only Sydney east of the Anzac bridge, Nick. Everything else is "West".
@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
how much does teh Force cost now compared to what a full SuperTT Force would cost?
Probably around half.
