'Super Rugby' 2021
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@kiwimurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@stargazer Clear and concise comments. Good to see.
Yep, that's good to see. Also good to see that they haven't changed the back out of the hands directive part.
Should be able to have that try as part of the try of the season awards then
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@bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Hmmm....
'Neanderthal rugby straight out of the 1950s': Why Super Rugby Aotearoa 'leaves the Six Nations for dead'
The Six Nations is great for its history and the passion it engenders, not to mention the fact that Scotland periodically lowers a much better team to clinch the Calcutta Cup. The rugby? Not so much.
Man I hate bullshit like this.
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@kirwan yeah, it will also look real bad if we play against this boring/neanderthal rugby and loose, thats the test
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@kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@kirwan yeah, it will also look real bad if we play against this boring/neanderthal rugby and loose, thats the test
It's not even accurate, the ABs attack with kicks all the time these days. Could argue that's boring too, the stereotypes aren't correct anymore
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For those living in North America.
Fans in the USA and Canada will be able to get their Sky Super Rugby Aotearoa fix from this weekend with news that all games will be broadcast live into North America on ESPN.com.ar/rugby. It shapes to be an action-packed weekend for fans in the USA and Canada with the Hurricanes taking on the Chiefs in Wellington on Saturday night (NZT) before the Blues face the Crusaders in a blockbuster top of the table clash at Eden Park on Sunday afternoon (NZT). Visit ESPN.Com/rugby for more details and to get specific match links closer to the game time. This weekendâs schedule is: Saturday 20 March, 7.05pm NZT: Hurricanes v Chiefs Sunday 21 March, 3.35pm NZT: Blues v Crusaders NOTE: Super Rugby Australia games are also broadcast live on ESPN.com.ar/rugby -
Lee does make a good point about the potential problems of being able to use third party payments. As I've said, the SR salary cap serves no purpose.
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@bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Lee does make a good point about the potential problems of being able to use third party payments. As I've said, the SR salary cap serves no purpose.
It would be easily levelled, with a salary cap (from rugby) and a third party cap (money from elsewhere), for each team and individual.
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@machpants It would be far more easily fixed with good player recruitement, development and selection. If you have the right players and allow them to become stars, they'll get the third party agreements and will want to stay.
This made me laugh and angry at the same time:
âWe need to look at ourselves and how can we improve our organisation and develop players from within Wellington, Manawatu, Hawkeâs Bay. If youâve got guys in those regions who grow up wanting to be Hurricanes then youâve got a reasonable chance of holding onto them. Some you canât, depending on the time. âFolau Fakatava, we didnât have a place for him when he was looking to come into Super Rugby. Heâs gone down to the Highlanders and he could be an All Black in the next year or so. You canât win them all but youâve got to try and keep the best. Folau is one we would have loved to keep but didnât have a spot for him.â -
@stargazer Fuck off Lee, the halfbacks in your squad in 2019 were TJ, Christie and Judd from the Naki who was given his first full contract. You also managed to sign Billy "I sure as hell haven't lived up to the hype and don't even look like being as good as my bro" Proctor on a 3 year contract.
Quite frankly he should have been signed out of school like Proctor.
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@nepia It's worse. They signed Billy Proctor on a 5-year contract, not 3.
The Hurricanes talent identification already goes pear-shaped (or should I say "Wellington-shaped"?) in the lower age grades. The Canes need a complete change of coaching & HP staff and management. As they've just re-appointed Holland and Gibbes, let's start with Lee, Castle and Larsen.
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Here is a fucking concept Hurricanes management. Create an environment where players actively want to come to and stay - that way you won't need to sign 17 year old's on 5 year contracts on the off-chance that they might turn out to be good when not playing against other school kids.
Maybe start by not having your favorite players who start no matter how badly they played the previous week (or all season in fact).
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@stockcar86 adding to that. Don't sign washed wingers who were good 6 years ago and failed to fire in the Mitre 10 Cup.
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the problem is, the pickings are pretty slim. In all honesty there is not the talent just floating around waiting to be selected. Pro rugby is an environment that takes time to adjust to. The other 3 sides not called the Crusaders or the Blues are years off. You need to develop your own players. Which means the mechanisms need to be created.
Based on the results on offer, and our discussions in the Crusaders thread, your academy is where you need to be spending your money.
But she's a one-way street for a while yet.
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@stockcar86 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Maybe start by not having your favorite players who start no matter how badly they played the previous week (or all season in fact).
As somone who did a bit of selecting and coaching of teams, can I say this is one of the less intelligent things to say. I got accused of picking favourite etc, (and same when I on rugby boards re coaches etc), and I always said well yes I probably did pick my favourites as most coaches should. And you know why? Almost every coach I know will have as his favourite the players who will carry out the job he wants and hopefully make him look good!
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@dan54 Well the Hurricanes coaches selections are not making them look good. Either the chosen players are not carrying out the job wanted by the coaches or they are not capable of doing it. If the are carrying out the job they have been asked to do then Lord help us, even then we will probably need a higher power than that (Sir Pinetree must surely be sitting at the Top Table) to correct this current mess we are being served up week in and week out. If the latter then they only have themselves to point the finger at as they are responsible for contracting the vast majority of their playing staff..
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@bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
For those living in North America.
Fans in the USA and Canada will be able to get their Sky Super Rugby Aotearoa fix from this weekend with news that all games will be broadcast live into North America on ESPN.com.ar/rugby. It shapes to be an action-packed weekend for fans in the USA and Canada with the Hurricanes taking on the Chiefs in Wellington on Saturday night (NZT) before the Blues face the Crusaders in a blockbuster top of the table clash at Eden Park on Sunday afternoon (NZT). Visit ESPN.Com/rugby for more details and to get specific match links closer to the game time. This weekendâs schedule is: Saturday 20 March, 7.05pm NZT: Hurricanes v Chiefs Sunday 21 March, 3.35pm NZT: Blues v Crusaders NOTE: Super Rugby Australia games are also broadcast live on ESPN.com.ar/rugbyWith a VPN, you can still watch the SRA games for free on the "ESPN Fans" YouTube Channel.
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I wouldâve liked to see the Development teams the likes of the Hunters, Bravehearts etc play a super rugby style competition that runs parallel to Super rugby and be the curtain raiser would be great to give the fringe super rugby players game time....ideally also wouldâve like the franchises U20s play before the the development team again for the experience, league did it before they canned the 20s used to be the 20s the development team and the main game, ok wonât bring more people into the ground but in the long run can only benefit the franchises.
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SRTT (I guess, Super Rugby Trans Ta$man) has ditched the super wekkend in one city, so some teams will get 3 home, others 2. SANZAAR encouraging teams to talk about revenue sharing. Who gets the home game not decided, good idea make them negotiate before they know who has the home game
From Paywalled NZH
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@machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Who gets the home game not decided, good idea make them negotiate before they know who has the home game
Spot on, great call! Agree the distribution so it's fair to both parties, then do the draw
