'Super Rugby' 2021
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I agree with these comments from Marinos but you can't turn back the clock now.
“But I guess my view on this is that I think over time we’ve tended to try and make Super Rugby the solution for domestic rugby in our markets, as opposed as to what it was initially set out to be. “That was to provide a blockbuster top-end, very quick, short and impactful competition structure, that complemented the domestic structure in each of the countries, not took over the domestic structures.” -
@Bovidae although if you were ever going to try now would be the time
during super 12 i always remember the NPC being the touted as the strong foundation that super rugby and then the international game was built on
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
during super 12 i always remember the NPC being the touted as the strong foundation that super rugby and then the international game was built on
and up to a couple of years ago, it was. It's responsible for generating the ridiculous amount of talent we produce, a lot of which winds up offshore in some way shape or form I suspect. But - it's like the Aussie domestic cricket competition, high quality begets high quality. You don't make it to the top in NZ rugby without being a bit special.
Take away a strong domestic comp, and the competitions start to suffer, players don't get tested so much.
I also think he's spot on, that Super 18 was a shocker. Damning on those involved the last time around, who wanted expansion at all costs.
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@Bovidae I agree wholeheartedly with those comments as well. NZR have probably contributed to fucking it as they assumed bigger meant more cash so allowed ill-conceived growth, Rugby Australia fucked it by adding more crap teams because they wanted SR to effectively be their domestic comp which otherwise would be shite, and SA fucked it via a combination of the two ie adding shit sides and going for a cash grab.
Then it got so long and big it required numerous bye weeks, staggered starts to accommodate tours, the conference system , a contrived finals structure and my personal fucking favourite: All Black rest weeks.
And boom, we all fucked it in the asshole.
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Oh and it's ludicrous length created a stupid international window, and encroached on the domestic rugby season. There were seasons when teams like Canterbury couldn't start at full strength because they had to rest players who'd had heavy SR workloads.
SR players being rested from provincial rugby, All Blacks being rested from SR, and All Blacks being rested from fucking All Black rugby. It's all a great big fuck up.
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@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The Australian newspaper reporting a trans Ta$man comp in 2022 with 5 each from Aus & NZ.
Great.
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@Snowy said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The Australian newspaper reporting a trans Ta$man comp in 2022 with 5 each from Aus & NZ.
Great.
At least 10 games that I won't bother to watch and more than 20 hours that won't be wasted.No different to Super Rugby Aotearoa only watching a couple of games a week.
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@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Potentially with a Japanese team and a Pacific team to make a Super 12
yuck
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@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Snowy said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The Australian newspaper reporting a trans Ta$man comp in 2022 with 5 each from Aus & NZ.
Great.
At least 10 games that I won't bother to watch and more than 20 hours that won't be wasted.No different to Super Rugby Aotearoa only watching a couple of games a week.
True, but I would rather not have the dross thrown in.
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in reality i only watch the landers games...im over worrying too much about the actual competition, s long as its a straight forward format i'll be ok
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@Kiwiwomble Com' on. You cared about the competition in 2015 didn't you?
Agree about the format. That has been the biggest problem.
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@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The Australian newspaper reporting a trans Ta$man comp in 2022 with 5 each from Aus & NZ.
Potentially with a Japanese team and a Pacific team to make a Super 12.
That should get the fans back. High quality rugby with the Force, Sunwolves and the Drua.
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@antipodean Sigh. Yeah.
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@Snowy yeah, i was meaning my real annoyances came from the overly complicated format, weird times zones etc....never really got annoyed on the rare occasion the landers thrashed someone....probably didn't happen enough to get old
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The Australian newspaper reporting a trans Ta$man comp in 2022 with 5 each from Aus & NZ.
Potentially with a Japanese team and a Pacific team to make a Super 12.
That should get the fans back. High quality rugby with the Force, Sunwolves and the Drua.
i, for one, look forward to the return of the conferences. I missed them this year.
The Chiefs were actually 3rd in the North island conference. Podium!
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Snowy yeah, i was meaning my real annoyances came from the overly complicated format, weird times zones etc....never really got annoyed on the rare occasion the landers thrashed someone....probably didn't happen enough to get old
Agree with most of that and, yep one title doesn't get old.
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Snowy ouch
We got sick of winning too, so just decided to stop.
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@Snowy said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Snowy ouch
We got sick of winning too, so just decided to stop.
for like ages too
