Blues v Chiefs
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@nzzp said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
I actually thought that they played pretty good with good shape and discipline but they freaked out once the comeback started
Ya say that, but they got the score to go up 26-19 after being 19-all. They ddint' go into their shells, played some decent footy.
Forwards crashing it up and a decent scrum is something yo ucan build a team around. Backs went OK too, we just threw up a shit lineout and slack maul defence again. That and some brain farts and it's all over rover
Typical Blues. Always find a way to lose a game
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@Stargazer said in Blues v Chiefs:
By the way, I didn't read the thread before writing my comments on the game.
Probably the biggest factor for both teams were injuries. Chiefs suffered in the first half, the Blues in the second.
According to Duluth who was the game we had some walking wounded out there for the last 15. And that backline was not ideal to end the game with!
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@canefan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@nzzp said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
I actually thought that they played pretty good with good shape and discipline but they freaked out once the comeback started
Ya say that, but they got the score to go up 26-19 after being 19-all. They ddint' go into their shells, played some decent footy.
Forwards crashing it up and a decent scrum is something yo ucan build a team around. Backs went OK too, we just threw up a shit lineout and slack maul defence again. That and some brain farts and it's all over rover
Typical Blues. Always find a way to lose a game
Yep. And failure breeds failure - opposition always think they can get up over us. As a fan, it's incredibly frustrating.
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@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Stargazer said in Blues v Chiefs:
By the way, I didn't read the thread before writing my comments on the game.
Probably the biggest factor for both teams were injuries. Chiefs suffered in the first half, the Blues in the second.
According to Duluth who was the game we had some walking wounded out there for the last 15. And that backline was not ideal to end the game with!
Has there been any post match updates on any of the injuries? Was Sam Cane looked after and pulled at half time or playing Poke and got Yanked or was he injured??
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@Hooroo said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Stargazer said in Blues v Chiefs:
By the way, I didn't read the thread before writing my comments on the game.
Probably the biggest factor for both teams were injuries. Chiefs suffered in the first half, the Blues in the second.
According to Duluth who was the game we had some walking wounded out there for the last 15. And that backline was not ideal to end the game with!
Has there been any post match updates on any of the injuries? Was Sam Cane looked after and pulled at half time or playing Poke and got Yanked or was he injured??
AB rest directive? We lost Reiko early too I think because of that, he was on fire too
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@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
Good old Blues killing another coaches career.
Doesn’t matter who the coach is, until they solve the 9/10 issue they will play their guts out and end up on the wrong end of the score.
I actually thought that they played pretty good with good shape and discipline but they freaked out once the comeback startedLast two years have been light years ahead of where Tana dragged us down to. Nice try though.
You Blues fans have blamed every coach since Ted and you know it.
I refer you to the stats thread from Duluth. Tana finished on what 6% against Kiwi teams?
He was in a category by himself of incompetence. Took ages to cycle out those shit Counties players he selected too.
I didn’t single out Tana.
You can’t deny that coaches become scapegoats at the Blues. Already a very good coach in Rangi is being tainted by some fans. -
@Stargazer said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Hooroo Cane was pulled at half time, no doubt because of the ABs gradual return-to-play protocol. Was surprised to see Rieko Ioane still on the field after the break. He only left the field in the 57th minute.
I made the comment during the match.
They are restricted to a total of 180 minutes in the first three games. It doesn’t have to be 40/60/80 but that was the requested structure.
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@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
Good old Blues killing another coaches career.
Doesn’t matter who the coach is, until they solve the 9/10 issue they will play their guts out and end up on the wrong end of the score.
I actually thought that they played pretty good with good shape and discipline but they freaked out once the comeback startedLast two years have been light years ahead of where Tana dragged us down to. Nice try though.
You Blues fans have blamed every coach since Ted and you know it.
I refer you to the stats thread from Duluth. Tana finished on what 6% against Kiwi teams?
He was in a category by himself of incompetence. Took ages to cycle out those shit Counties players he selected too.
You can’t deny that coaches become scapegoats at the Blues. Already a very good coach in Rangi is being tainted by some fans.
Not this fan. Big steps forward - just not quite enough yet. Forwards went well, backs were not bad, still some maul defence and lineouts to focus on this week.
What I was impressed with was that there seemed to be some clarity in the team about what they were trying to achieve. Compared to previous seasons where headless chook behaviour was the norm, I'll cut him some real slack.
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@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
Good old Blues killing another coaches career.
Doesn’t matter who the coach is, until they solve the 9/10 issue they will play their guts out and end up on the wrong end of the score.
I actually thought that they played pretty good with good shape and discipline but they freaked out once the comeback startedLast two years have been light years ahead of where Tana dragged us down to. Nice try though.
You Blues fans have blamed every coach since Ted and you know it.
I refer you to the stats thread from Duluth. Tana finished on what 6% against Kiwi teams?
He was in a category by himself of incompetence. Took ages to cycle out those shit Counties players he selected too.
I didn’t single out Tana.
You can’t deny that coaches become scapegoats at the Blues. Already a very good coach in Rangi is being tainted by some fans.My issue with Rangi is how do you watch Ruru for a season and then select him again and start him again.
Its a glaring issue.
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@nzzp said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:
Good old Blues killing another coaches career.
Doesn’t matter who the coach is, until they solve the 9/10 issue they will play their guts out and end up on the wrong end of the score.
I actually thought that they played pretty good with good shape and discipline but they freaked out once the comeback startedLast two years have been light years ahead of where Tana dragged us down to. Nice try though.
You Blues fans have blamed every coach since Ted and you know it.
I refer you to the stats thread from Duluth. Tana finished on what 6% against Kiwi teams?
He was in a category by himself of incompetence. Took ages to cycle out those shit Counties players he selected too.
You can’t deny that coaches become scapegoats at the Blues. Already a very good coach in Rangi is being tainted by some fans.
Not this fan. Big steps forward - just not quite enough yet. Forwards went well, backs were not bad, still some maul defence and lineouts to focus on this week.
What I was impressed with was that there seemed to be some clarity in the team about what they were trying to achieve. Compared to previous seasons where headless chook behaviour was the norm, I'll cut him some real slack.
Thought the Blues forwards really dominated in attack particularly the reserves.
But 9 and 10 play continues to plague this Blues side. Terrible.
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The Blues did not escape unscathed on the injury front either. Prop Alex Hodgman and bench hooker Ray Niuia both suffered what appeared pretty serious leg injuries, while MacDonald had some concerns over second-half try-scorer Karl Tu'inukuafe as well. "Our front row took a bit of a hit tonight."
Props falling over everywhere Chiefs have a couple as well Laulala and Ta'avau both injured not sure how badly.
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Wasn’t it great seeing Cruden’s league-esque distance touch finders back.
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Chiefs beat the blues without Mckenzie, Harris and Retallick. With Cane off at half time. With 2 tight heads that couldn’t scrum. And with Weber, cruden and ALB on the bench. (That meant TTT had to start which is my worst nightmare). Blues are sh*t, try to change my mind.
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Oh and without Luke Jacobson who’s a tank for us too ^
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@kev said in Blues v Chiefs:
@macandcheese From all comments Nock and Plummer are fine they just need to select them.
That's noted
I can live with Plummer at #12 or ahead of Perofeta at #10
I've no clue how good Nock is Not seen him play much
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Firstly congratulations to the Chiefs , it’s no mean effort being down 5-19 at halftime and then coming back to win going away especially whilst having a host first liners unavailable..
Thought the changes made by Gatland at halftime were spot on,Cruden’s impact especially, his ability to seize upon opportunities, but more importantly his ability make sure his team is playing in the right parts of the field goal kicking aside.They often say the first sign of madness is repeating the same things and expecting different results ..
Over the last few seasons and again tonight , you cant fault the effort the Blues forwards, really and truthfully they set a platform in the first half that should have seen the game taken well and truly away from the chiefs..
But what happens behind the scrum at 9,10 and 15 is so crucial..these are positions in the modern game where doing the right at key times in terms of game management is everything .I am not sure what picture the coaches or the high performance coaches are watching in around these positions , but they have been an issue for a very long time and it continues to be an issue ..
Sometimes it’s easy to criticise the players that are running out in these jerseys ,but the art of being a good selector knowing when players can’t step up into a position,so the next move is to address it, do what ever it takes..
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@KiwiMurph problem is, the 9s in the squad.
Ruru has had his moments (however fleeting) Nock even less so, and Christie who isn't much cop either...who do you choose?
That said, if Nock gets a run without injury and gains some confidence to play to his potential, he has the game to Become one of the missing peices in the Blues puzzle...but that is IF.
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Ruru, Perofeta and Duffie were predictably poor. Eklund wasn't great either, but Niua was good off the bench, so that's a positive on the hooker front.
Marchant was OK in his debut, but didn't get much chance to really run in space because Ruru had an obsession for attacking the blindside for most of the game. And then in the 2nd half, Perofeta stopped passing to the backs and we missed some overlaps because of that.
