internet/streaming
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The golden rule is if it doesn't move, it should be wired in.
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@dogmeat said in internet/streaming:
@nta I'm astounded you are running everything you have without fibre.
Thank fuck for video compression.
When you stream does it come in installments?
Basically. Here are two results from Speedtest - the top one is just now while the wife is on a Microsoft Teams video call. The bottom one is uncongested network I ran in November.
This is what the modem says it is getting and how much copper back tot he nearest node (965m estimate)
Lastly, this is what my connection is configured for: 50/22 which the DSLAM reports happily but is unable to deliver. I got that plan because it was better for upload than 25/5
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@antipodean said in internet/streaming:
The golden rule is if it doesn't move, it should be wired in.
And if it doesn't move and DOESN'T have LAN connectivity, why the fuck would you buy it?
Kids macbooks are an issue. Wife's work PC is in the spare bedroom when we realised sharing an office was bullshit.
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@crucial said in internet/streaming:
@nta welcome to the past
piston wristed gibbon!
I see Chorus has 300Mbps plans for a paltry $60 a month. Fuck a duck.
to be fair, anything above 300 starts to run into wifi limitations. So there is that
Running everything on Wifi is for noobs.
Out of the primary devices in my house, all the AV gear is connected to the switch via GB LAN (3 x TVs, Sonos, PS4, Fetch Box, PS5) as well as my PC and the Laser Printer. Also comes in handy for the VOIP base station.
yep - have hardwired most of the AV gear... but I get 1000MB down, which is honestly a bit pointless as most of the draw is wifi.
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@nepia said in internet/streaming:
I feel like we're in a backwater here in Oz reading this thread. Although, i assume that's balanced out by the mortgage I'm going to have to take out to afford basic food items on my upcoming trip back home.
Yep. Cheap, good internet but you cant afford the snacks to eat while watching Netflix.
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A question for the collective. My house is 2 storey, has partial hardwire ethernet coverage, so currently my internet network consists of a couple of access points plugged into the ethernet network. Trouble is, CF Jr suffers from poor wifi to his PS5 in a deadspot. I am considering the following options:
- buying a mesh system which will require either 2 or 3 nodes
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETTPL9303/TP-Link-Deco-M9-Plus-Whole-Home-Mesh-Wi-Fi-System
I planned to buy a 2 pack first, then buy a third (cost is same as buying a 3 pack) if the signal is still too weak
- I'm looking at a powerline kit
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETTPL9020/TP-Link-TL-PA9020P-KIT-AV2000-Powerline-Kit-with-A
Has anyone had experience with these? This would allow me to have a solid connection to the PS5 which while not quite as good as ethernet should be better than wifi.
I assume a powerline adaptor and my current access point could be connected via ethernet using a data splitter?
Any advice would be appreciated
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@canefan I used to run powerline adapter but now use mesh and am not going back. I haven’t used that mesh system but I run netgear Orbi, I have 3 stories, shit load of concrete and one master and one satellite gives me excellent coverage everywhere
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Got the Starlink set up the other day and very impressed. Was getting 260/40 after only an hour of self optimising (and that's with a 95% unobstructed view).
The kit is way cool. Plug and play but it is a continuously self aligning 'dish' that drives itself to keep the connection optimised.I am at a temporary site at the moment but when we move to the new property it will have an even better open sky view and I will also get the ethernet adapter so that I can run a mesh off it.
Early days but recommended.
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@Crucial awesome. Great portable option which I assume will make moving from the temporary to the permanent site (or anywhere else).
Spoke to my mate who lives down the South Coast NSW. Had fibre pulled through to his street about 9 months ago and recently got a letter to say it was ready for a tech.
My street got the fibre done in about August. Hopefully some time before June it happens. I keep hassling my Federal MP - the Communications Minster, no less - but she's unresponsive....
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@NTA said in internet/streaming:
@Crucial awesome. Great portable option which I assume will make moving from the temporary to the permanent site (or anywhere else).
Spoke to my mate who lives down the South Coast NSW. Had fibre pulled through to his street about 9 months ago and recently got a letter to say it was ready for a tech.
My street got the fibre done in about August. Hopefully some time before June it happens. I keep hassling my Federal MP - the Communications Minster, no less - but she's unresponsive....
Not sure if the installation process you guys are using but the way NZ did it was that when you saw trenches being dug for a “fibre rollout” that was just an empty conduit being laid between junctions. When you order a connection to the premises a fibre will be blown through the conduit. That way a connection is made by conduits and the fibre join is at the junction. Fibre splicing equipment is hugely expensive so a join outside the house could be done but isn’t efficient.
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@Crucial Nice!
I looked into it a year ago, but frankly couldn't justify the cost.
However, I did shed my Spark/Chorus woes and went to Wireless Nation, which significantly improved things - I can get over 50 mbps download speeds - but, only if I get up at 3am when no-one else is using the cell tower. Mostly it hovers around 10 mbps, though at peak times it can go really low - just 2-3 mbps - but, for whatever reason, the connection is still more stable than the Spark copper connection, which was a bit faster than that.
Mostly what I have now is adequate for my purposes - would have been marginal for running Spark Sport, but I boycotted that on principle and now I don't need it!
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@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
@NTA said in internet/streaming:
@Crucial awesome. Great portable option which I assume will make moving from the temporary to the permanent site (or anywhere else).
Spoke to my mate who lives down the South Coast NSW. Had fibre pulled through to his street about 9 months ago and recently got a letter to say it was ready for a tech.
My street got the fibre done in about August. Hopefully some time before June it happens. I keep hassling my Federal MP - the Communications Minster, no less - but she's unresponsive....
Not sure if the installation process you guys are using but the way NZ did it was that when you saw trenches being dug for a “fibre rollout” that was just an empty conduit being laid between junctions. When you order a connection to the premises a fibre will be blown through the conduit. That way a connection is made by conduits and the fibre join is at the junction. Fibre splicing equipment is hugely expensive so a join outside the house could be done but isn’t efficient.
Congratulations on joining the modern world though.We already had pits capable of running fibre next to copper so no trench work required. This part of suburban Sydney they did a bit of future proofing.
Other than that - yeah they'll feed the fibre up from the pit to my house, following the existing copper connection. I've got a space all ready for them. Phone line is tied to the patch panel on the right of screen. Street condution ends about 800mm on the wall with "Fibre Box Here" - external wall as well so piece of piss.
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FINALLY the fibre in our street pits is going to be turned on.
It will be zero for the install - as it fucking should be - but the monthly spend with my current provider Exetel is still $95 for 100/40
If I go with them for their fastest plan it is $130/month for quoted 500/50 with actuals of an evening being half that.
Aussie Broadband offer 1000/50 (evening typical @ 600/42) for $150...
Given the tax man will eat a portion of that anyway, I might go with the current provider and see if we need to go any faster.
And that won't be complete until well into May regardles....
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@NTA said in internet/streaming:
FINALLY the fibre in our street pits is going to be turned on.
It will be zero for the install - as it fucking should be - but the monthly spend with my current provider Exetel is still $95 for 100/40
If I go with them for their fastest plan it is $130/month for quoted 500/50 with actuals of an evening being half that.
Aussie Broadband offer 1000/50 (evening typical @ 600/42) for $150...
Given the tax man will eat a portion of that anyway, I might go with the current provider and see if we need to go any faster.
And that won't be complete until well into May regardles....
Why the decreased performance in the evening? That used to be a copper backhaul capacity issue but shouldn't be a problem for fibre.
Freakin' ripoff prices. 69 NZPesos for 300/40 is the standard here. And that's FTTH. Gig Fibre anywhere between $85-110 and 'Hyper Fibre available in some places tooWelcome to the 2010s though
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@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
Why the decreased performance in the evening? That used to be a copper backhaul capacity issue but shouldn't be a problem for fibre.
Two issues:
- RSPs only buy a certain amount of bandwidth from the wholesaler based on their predictions for a given area.
- Same as before: backhaul reaches congestion points because the Multi Tech Mix was piss-poor design from the start. Even fibre has limits when it has been built by a tight-arse.
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Well, life comes at you fast. Got an SMS advising a tech would be doing the assessment for exterior connection in the next couple of days. That should mean everything from the pit to the NTD is checked and done by the end of the week.
Email from my RSP advising installation for internals will be April 26th.
My son turns 19 that day and will no doubt celebrate by downloading a fuckton of stuff for the PS5...
