Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020
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@canefan That's the team I'd pick, as well. But, Rossco still bats ahead of Henry in my team.
Selection of a 12th man is potentially important in these days of HIAs - I assume anyone who gets knocked out has to be replaced by the 12th man?
Someone like Neesh or even Santner, who bats and bowls would seem an ideal choice - though I'm hazy about the rules around this. Anyway, neither is in the squad so I guess Mitch Jr. is the choice.
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan That's the team I'd pick, as well. But, Rossco still bats ahead of Henry in my team.
Selection of a 12th man is potentially important in these days of HIAs - I assume anyone who gets knocked out has to be replaced by the 12th man?
Someone like Neesh or even Santner, who bats and bowls would seem an ideal choice - though I'm hazy about the rules around this. Anyway, neither is in the squad so I guess Mitch Jr. is the choice.
I think the HIA rules are like for like. So you can't replace a bowler with a batsman. I assume that means that you can pick anyone in your squad, although I believe it is up to the match ref if it's an appropriate change. I'm not sure how a allrounder would be treated.
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@Cyclops Yeah - especially if you didn't have a spare allrounder in your squad.
I noted in the Ford Trophy final, Hamish Rutherford had to be replaced by Otago's 12th man (according to the rules) - but, that makes sense because the away team likely only travels with 12 players. Test cricket rules are doubtless a bit different.
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Yeah, no idea about the domestic rules. It wouldn't surprise me if they only had one or two subs available though.
I had a quick look at the test playing conditions and it seems that the icc doesn't care about the 12th man anymore. Teams nominate 6 sub fielders and any of them can sub on (under the normal no batting or bowling conditions). A team can apply to the match ref in exceptional circumstances for other people to take the field as a sub.
There's no restriction on the concussion sub - it looks like they don't even have to have been a nominated sub. However, the match ref can impose conditions on the sub. So if we had a batsman (say Latham) concussion subbed out and the only suitable replacement was Neesham (perhaps because of a tour), the match ref would be able to say 'fine, but he can't bowl'.
It's up to the match ref's discretion though, so it would be interesting to see what would happen if we wanted to sub Boult for Neesham or Boult for Santner. Also would be interesting if we had a Kane for Neesh swap. Would that be an over limit?
I can see some controversial uses of this coming in future years, particularly around swapping of bowlers. Hopefully the match refs take a sensible approach taking a reasonably strict approach on 'like for like' for home teams and being a little more relaxed for touring teams.
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
It's up to the match ref's discretion though, so it would be interesting to see what would happen if we wanted to sub Boult for Neesham or Boult for Santner. Also would be interesting if we had a Kane for Neesh swap. Would that be an over limit?
Let's hope Marais isn't the match ref when we need a sub - just saying...
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
It's up to the match ref's discretion though, so it would be interesting to see what would happen if we wanted to sub Boult for Neesham or Boult for Santner. Also would be interesting if we had a Kane for Neesh swap. Would that be an over limit?
Let's hope Marais isn't
the match ref when we need a sub - just saying...in the countryFixed
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@Godder said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Siam said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Wags out. Baby coming.
But don't worry Henry called up
Damn it!
Good thing about the match referees these days is that most of them are former international players.
Match refs must be former test players under ICC rules. Pretty sweet gig really, wander out for the toss and then get paid to watch 5 days of test cricket. I kind of get it, but it also feels like a bit of jobs for the boys.
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Siam said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Wags out. Baby coming.
But don't worry Henry called up
Don't know why Mrs. Wags can't do this on her own - the delivery is bound to be short, or very short!
Simply outstanding. Well done .
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I am very much not a fan of bowling first. We'll need to get them for 200 odd. I hope the pitch is seaming like a motherfucker.
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
I am very much not a fan of bowling first. We'll need to get them for 200 odd. I hope the pitch is seaming like a motherfucker.
To be fair bar or bowl first doesn’t matter, what ever you do just do it fucken well.
There’s plenty of impressive averages in that Indian team though some are from guys who haven’t played a lot. Let’s hope they ‘enjoy’ the NZ test cricket experience.. and hope it’s windy as fuck when it’s their turn to bowl.. ideally sometime later today!