Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020
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@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
I think overseas rights are always negotiated with the hosts on a tour by tour basis. So Sky could cover it all still (or Spark, or TV3)...
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
I think overseas rights are always negotiated with the hosts on a tour by tour basis. So Sky could cover it all still (or Spark, or TV3)...
I'm pretty sure Sky still has rights to all the overseas Black Caps fixtures.
But, I think @Crazy-Horse is asking who in Oz will carry the Spark broadcasts. No idea.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
Sky TV still have the overseas rights. So if you are in NZ and want to watch cricket at home and abroad you need to subscribe to Spark and Sky. What a clusterfuck thanks to NZC and the consumers lose
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
I think overseas rights are always negotiated with the hosts on a tour by tour basis. So Sky could cover it all still (or Spark, or TV3)...
I'm pretty sure Sky still has rights to all the overseas Black Caps fixtures.
But, I think @Crazy-Horse is asking who in Oz will carry the Spark broadcasts. No idea.
Spark don't have onsite broadcasting capability do they? They will probably have to pay sky TV's OSB to do it....
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I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team. I don't think they're particularly entertaining or insightful. NZC took the money twenty years ago taking it off free to air and are doing the same now that someone is putting in the money to try break sky's monopoly, so I'm not particularly worried about that either. Ultimately more money for NZC is a good thing.
The radio comms on the other hand I'll really miss. They're great servants of the game and I hope someone (be they another radio station or spark) gets them involved.
Worth noting that radiosport have only turned down the exclusive negotiating period. Wouldn't surprise me if either rs or someone else winds up with the rights.
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@Cyclops I'm the other way with the Sky commentary team - I think they're excellent and complement one another well. Way better than what Australia has and had.
Spark is currently of no use to me, whereas I have a perfectly good Sky system - so I'm extremely fucked off with Spark (of whom I've been a customer forever, but that may shortly change). I'm far from convinced that the future of cricket broadcasting needs to be on the internet - I cannot believe people are going to watch cricket on their phones, though they may listen to it. Having home matches on spark and overseas matches on sky is a shambles - and frankly I hope the subscription service works as well for Spark as it did for those guys who took the EPL away from Sky (Premier League Pass or something).
I'm very hopeful that you'll be right about the radio coverage and that's all that's delaying my calls for David White's head!
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Cyclops I'm the other way with the Sky commentary team - I think they're excellent and complement one another well. Way better than what Australia has and had.
Spark is currently of no use to me, whereas I have a perfectly good Sky system - so I'm extremely fucked off with Spark (of whom I've been a customer forever, but that may shortly change). I'm far from convinced that the future of cricket broadcasting needs to be on the internet - I cannot believe people are going to watch cricket on their phones, though they may listen to it. Having home matches on spark and overseas matches on sky is a shambles - and frankly I hope the subscription service works as well for Spark as it did for those guys who took the EPL away from Sky (Premier League Pass or something).
I'm very hopeful that you'll be right about the radio coverage and that's all that's delaying my calls for David White's head!
I can totally understand why individuals might be unhappy with the decision to go to spark. But the same was true of the decision to go to sky twenty years ago.
You're right that our team is a crapload better than anything the Aussies have. I think we both have got sucked in to a 'jobs for the boys' mentality (probably the result of ex players that were genuinely great comms bringing up there mates). There's a place for ex players in the commentary box, but I don't think that's a mandatory requirement.
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team. I don't think they're particularly entertaining or insightful.
When Stevenson is announced as the new Spark sport cricket commentator you might change your opinion.
Smith is staying with Sky but will still have rugby and overseas cricket commentary commitments. Doull goes all over the world commentating. It will be interesting to see if the other ex-players end up with Spark.
I haven't listened to Radio Sport in years so that has no effect on me personally, but I used to enjoy Waddle, Coney and co, and do appreciate the work they do.
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
But, I think @Crazy-Horse is asking who in Oz will carry the Spark broadcasts. No idea.
Yeah that's what I meant, just worded it badly.
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team.
I enjoyed the early team. That late 90s/early 00s team built around Crowe, Smith, Coney, Larsen, Nisbo and a visiting commentator, with Wads handling the tea intermission was outstanding. The addition of Rig was good but it's been jobs for the boys as you say after that.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
But, I think @Crazy-Horse is asking who in Oz will carry the Spark broadcasts. No idea.
Yeah that's what I meant, just worded it badly.
ah, right.
I'm no expert in sporting rights, but as far as I know the rights overseas will be unchanged. NZC hold them, they've changed domestic rights providers, but all the foreign stuff should be the same as before.
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@rotated said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team.
I enjoyed the early team. That late 90s/early 00s team built around Crowe, Smith, Coney, Larsen, Nisbo and a visiting commentator, with Wads handling the tea intermission was outstanding. The addition of Rig was good but it's been jobs for the boys as you say after that.
Yeah I miss Crowe in particular. He has to have been one of the finest cricketing minds this country has ever produced.
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@rotated said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team.
I enjoyed the early team. That late 90s/early 00s team built around Crowe, Smith, Coney, Larsen, Nisbo and a visiting commentator, with Wads handling the tea intermission was outstanding. The addition of Rig was good but it's been jobs for the boys as you say after that.
In this day and age, though - it would be very difficult for someone who wasn't an ex-player to beat out an ex-player. They're picking bright, eloquent guys with cricketing expertise and who can bring a wealth of background colour. I don't see e.g. a Sumo being competitive with even the weaker links.
As one example, I listened to those alternative commentary collective guys doing the ABs vs BCs T20 game and they were awful.
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
Sky TV still have the overseas rights. So if you are in NZ and want to watch cricket at home and abroad you need to subscribe to Spark and Sky. What a clusterfuck thanks to NZC and the consumers lose
Come on.
- NZC don't own overseas rights, the hosts do.
- Sky's modus operandi for some overseas blackcaps tours (see tours to South Africa) was to still be negotiating a few days before the first match. So, if Sky do have any extra overseas rights already signed up (apart from England and Australian rights they routinely seem interested in) it's because they've just received the 'prick' of some competition.
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From an earlier article on Stuff:
Sky highlighted its partnership with Cricket Australia, which would allow it to screen Black Caps tours in 2019/20 and 2020/21, and all international matches (men and women) played in Australia. As well Sky's relationship with BCCI (India) meant it had the rights to the Black Caps tours in 2021/22 and 2022/23, and the Indian Premier League.
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Cyclops I'm the other way with the Sky commentary team - I think they're excellent and complement one another well. Way better than what Australia has and had.
Spark is currently of no use to me, whereas I have a perfectly good Sky system - so I'm extremely fucked off with Spark (of whom I've been a customer forever, but that may shortly change). I'm far from convinced that the future of cricket broadcasting needs to be on the internet - I cannot believe people are going to watch cricket on their phones, though they may listen to it. Having home matches on spark and overseas matches on sky is a shambles - and frankly I hope the subscription service works as well for Spark as it did for those guys who took the EPL away from Sky (Premier League Pass or something).
I'm very hopeful that you'll be right about the radio coverage and that's all that's delaying my calls for David White's head!
If I were you Chris I'd be directing most of my frustration at Sky. Fact is they haven't adapted to the changing market; people like you are in a minority now (I don't mean that as an insult) and whilst they should look to still offer services to you, they really needed to invest in tech for streaming to capture younger generations who have no interest in watching traditional TV, and also the millions of people on fibre that stream most of their content nowadays.
For far too long their only streaming was Sky Go, which was a diabolical service that regularly crashed and had no casting capability.
Because of that they have bled subscribers, and can now no longer outbid their competitors who have no interest in providing satellite services for obvious reasons. If it wasn't Spark it was going to be someone else; the writing has been on the wall for a decade.
Personally I've ditched my Sky decoder and pay $40 per month for their new sport streaming service. I've found that a much better experience, and yes I watched a significant portion of the tests on my phone like many other people that stream stuff. But this streaming service has come way too late, they needed to have it years ago.
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@No-Quarter they wanted the Vodafone merger to achieve some of those platform goals
