Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
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@Paekakboyz I think (the cumulative effects of) a sequence of disasters derailed that tour in the first two days.
- Agreeing to play the first test in Perth on probably the world's fastest and bounciest pitch.
- Trent being injured.
- Losing the toss.
- Ferg getting injured and reducing our capacity/chances of knocking Oz over in the first night session.
- The Aussies batting precisely five sessions, so that we started our first innings under lights. Those two hours were some of the scariest bowling I've ever seen.
I think after two days we were pretty much shell-shocked.
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
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@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
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@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
That's quite funny, looking back. Goes to show we really are a team unit and if we lose a key player for a while we are a bit ordinary again.
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
England just beat South Africa at home. But yeah, away test series wins are the absolute gold standard in test cricket at the moment.
Tbf SA have gone downhill in a big way recently, not the team they used to be.
Oz have some very big weapons in their side, probably the best bowling attack, big tall fast bowlers and a decent spinner (Lyons has been the top test wicket taker the last 3 years) and a batsmen who averages 60. Along with an opener who scores more often then he fails (especially at home).
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@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
So....how many Indians are we going to let in our joint team for a series to be played in NZ?
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Certainly the trend seems to be for the home teams to dominate. Leaving aside Pakistan as they haven't played at home. Since the start of 2015
Percentage of home tests won
India 78.6%
Australia 69%
New Zealand 65.2%
South Africa 62.1%
England 61.8%So that's 5 teams winning more than 60% of home test matches. In contrast, no team has won more than 50% of away tests in that time with only India near 50%, England 33% and NZ under 25% (4/17)
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
Absolutely. Thing is, they are all in the team
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
Absolutely. Thing is, they are all in the team
Yep, but they weren't a year before when we were picking the combined XI
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
Absolutely. Thing is, they are all in the team
Yep, but they weren't a year before when we were picking the combined XI
They also weren't there to contribute to the test rankings. That was another big motivator, put little brother in his place. And they did
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
Absolutely. Thing is, they are all in the team
Yep, but they weren't a year before when we were picking the combined XI
They also weren't there to contribute to the test rankings. That was another big motivator, put little brother in his place. And they did
They bloody well did.
If we win or draw the next test, overall a good summer. The big asterisk is the Australian tour, but we won't be the last team to go there and get minced.
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
We'd still have needed to roll the rest of them for under 200 given our batting... needed to remove Starc and co..
(or call up Hobart Hero Bracewell...)
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@Donsteppa said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
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@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
ahem, in late October we were putting together XIs that had a majority of kiwis in them. Heady times indeed...
What a difference a few months makes
replace Warner, Smith and Labooooooooshayne and then have that chat. We'd be competitive at least
We'd still have needed to roll the rest of them for under 200 given our batting... needed to remove Starc and co..
(or call up Hobart Hero Bracewell...)
Their bowlers are so good they can get their batsmen out of trouble in NZ and Australian conditions
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Should be an open and shut case, but will convention over-ride common sense?
