Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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@KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
So which new bowler do you bring in for the Sydney test?
Ajaz Patel? A left armer, so like for like replacement, except he turns it.
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i think our choice of spinner is impacted by the fact that none of our seamers can bat for shit
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Astle most likely. The other options are Henry and Jamieson.
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@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Astle most likely. The other options are Henry and Jamieson.
Astle is at least in the squad and can bat a bit.Doubt that they will use another seamer if Sydney lives up to its rep as a turning wicket.
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It will be Astle because he's in the squad - and he can hold a bat.
Only question is whether conditions might warrant us rolling the dice and playing a second spinner.
Santner currently getting plenty of stick from the commentary box - reminiscent of Mark Craig last time we were in Oz.
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Australia ruthless now, well done by them
I have given Colin too much shit, he's an excellent 4th seamer. He's bowled 30 overs at not much over 2 an over, and taken 2 top order wickets. Wags the same as the 3rd option, 32 overs at basically 2 with 2 wickets. Southee and Boult are the ones that needed to knock over the top order, and they haven't
The spinner only being trusted with 13 overs halfway through the 5th session is a disgrace.
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
3 overs for Blundell to play the batsmen in after lunch has left me perplexed and questioning what the fuck they're playing at....after inserting the opposition!
I think the first test knocked the stuffing out of us. If we'd put up a decent fight there I reckon we'd have batted first and backed ourselves to put 350+ on the board to give us a fighting chance of a win.
It's probably the biggest thing I miss about Baz. He'd always back us to play aggressive cricket and go for the win, which is what you have to do in Aus.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I think if Aussie had won the toss and batted anyway, we'd be happy with ~250/4 at stumps.
I was going to contradict you but looking at the last few boxing day tests, the team batting first basically always made over 350. Australia did the worst with just 327 versus England. Still the odds on us winning were a lot longer at the end of day one than they were at the start.
yep, if you are going to send the opposition in, you want more in return than what we have.
When you consider we took a wicket in the first over, to only have 5 at the end of 4 sessions is not good enough.
I still think the decision to bowl was the right one. And i actually think we've bowled well for the most part, the fact the Aussies have had to earn their runs is proof of that. It's just been really tough test cricket.
It will now come down to the batsmen matching the Aussies.
We’ve bowled to a pretty good plan, but the conditions and the good Aussie batsmen in their own backyard has come to the fore. We’ve kept Oz under 3 rpo, but our bowlers are getting very little assistance.
I personally wasn’t expecting much more from us when I saw the weather forecast. Hopeful but that was about it.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I think if Aussie had won the toss and batted anyway, we'd be happy with ~250/4 at stumps.
I was going to contradict you but looking at the last few boxing day tests, the team batting first basically always made over 350. Australia did the worst with just 327 versus England. Still the odds on us winning were a lot longer at the end of day one than they were at the start.
yep, if you are going to send the opposition in, you want more in return than what we have.
When you consider we took a wicket in the first over, to only have 5 at the end of 4 sessions is not good enough.
I still think the decision to bowl was the right one. And i actually think we've bowled well for the most part, the fact the Aussies have had to earn their runs is proof of that. It's just been really tough test cricket.
It will now come down to the batsmen matching the Aussies.
We’ve bowled to a pretty good plan, but the conditions and the good Aussie batsmen in their own backyard has come to the fore. We’ve kept Oz under 3 rpo, but our bowlers are getting very little assistance.
I personally wasn’t expecting much more from us when I saw the weather forecast. Hopeful but that was about it.
yep, and their best players did the heavy lifting when conditions actually helped for us. And best of all, they were able to stop us taking wickets in groups, every partnership went past 50 runs. very patient and systematic.
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The commentators actually haven't annoyed me too much given that we are getting done over.
Kerry O'Keeffe seems quite knowledgeable but is irritating because he thinks he's funny and laughs at his own jokes.
Is A Goer (I might have spelled that wrong) is pretty good, but most women with a name like that I would probably like.
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@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The commentators actually haven't annoyed me too much given that we are getting done over.
Kerry O'Keeffe seems quite knowledgeable but is irritating because he thinks he's funny and laughs at his own jokes.
Is A Goer (I might have spelled that wrong) is pretty good, but most women with a name like that I would probably like.
Kerry O'Keefe is hilarious!
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@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The commentators actually haven't annoyed me too much given that we are getting done over.
Kerry O'Keeffe seems quite knowledgeable but is irritating because he thinks he's funny and laughs at his own jokes.
Is A Goer (I might have spelled that wrong) is pretty good, but most women with a name like that I would probably like.
Kerry O'Keefe is hilarious!
Well he thinks so.
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fucking Wags. He's got a heart the size of ayers rock
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Southee!
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
fucking Wags. He's got a heart the size of ayers rock
Hard not to like the guy ay. He's rapidly becoming my favourite cricketer ever.
That was also out every day of the week. Reviews are for "howlers" and that was one. Comms trying to defend Erasmus, but it really did look out.
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@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The commentators actually haven't annoyed me too much given that we are getting done over.
Kerry O'Keeffe seems quite knowledgeable but is irritating because he thinks he's funny and laughs at his own jokes.
Is A Goer (I might have spelled that wrong) is pretty good, but most women with a name like that I would probably like.
Kerry is good value because he doesn’t take himself so seriously and yet knows the game.
Warne still grates but it’s hard to argue with his more analytical comments given his record and the way he attacked in test cricket.
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No luck from Erasmus
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@Snowy I find O'Keefe the most annoying, because he's the most Aussie flag-waving - closest to a throw-back to the old Channel 9. I guess he played with Chappelli so a bit of the arse gene was bound to rub off.
What the Aussies have done well is get Michael Vaughan and Isa into the team - which along with having Smithy there, makes things a lot less abrasive. Also Gilchrist seems very even handed, so even though we're getting our arses handed to us we're not getting 6 hours of relentless criticism and jingoism.
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@Chris-B Isa is a gem, and i am happy for her to do as many test series as there are.
The only really annoying one is Mike Hussey. He's sort of the new Slats, with his boundless cricket-nerd enthusiasm. But for all he loves the game, he doesn't have a heap of insight. And his "lab" thing is fucking stupid for the vast majority of the time.
Also Mark Waugh is just a relentlessly negative asshole who can basically go fuck himself.
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Wagner gets Head at the MCG...
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Erasmus does us over again. Getting an LB in Aus for a Kiwi is about as likely as me finding Painite in my back yard, which is appropriate given the Aussie captain and the name of the discoverer.
I had to go out but they were talking earlier about trying to get a ball tracker on the Morrison to McDermott LBW. Did that happen? Didn't actually think it was possible but would love to see it.
As for Kerry, just don't laugh at your own jokes, as I said, or sound like you are amusing yourself so much. It's a bit weird.
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Southee with a couple of junk time wickets to disguise his hundred coming up.
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Little bit of a mini collapse for the Aussies now, unfortunately 150 runs too late.
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@mariner4life Hussey doesn't really annoy me too much - but, I'm usually making coffee or getting a beer from the fridge when we cross to the cricket lab.
Agree on Mark Waugh - according to his brother, when Mark was walking off after scoring a century in his his first test he looked up at the players enclosure and said to Border - "I told you so - you should have picked me earlier", so I'm not really expecting him to take many prisoners.
Cleaning up the tail, but too little to late.
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well, we took 10 wickets, that's something right?
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@mariner4life wasn't looking likely an hour ago
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@mariner4life Last five wickets for 33!!! Pretty good even though they started slogging.
Lets hope we're not going to come out and find how much difference the extra speed of Starc and Cummins makes on this pitch. I.e. that we're jumping about and end the day at 40/5 or something equally awful.
I want to see our supposedly good players like Latham, Nicholls and Watling really stand up in support of Kane and Rossco.
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Unfortunately when we are talking about the commentators we probably aren't doing well on the field.
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Cleaning up the tail, but too little to late.
Yeah. Innings all over but we have to do something really special now.
We pretty much have to bat for over 2 days and only bat once. Then hope that the pitch falls apart.
If it does, it will be deemed dangerous and will be called off.If a miracle happens and we get a win it will be too smokey in SYD to play the decider.
Supporting the Craps over the years versing Aus has made me a little negative.
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@Chris-B i have a very real feeling we will be 3 down at the close of play.
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pffft hahaha the first ball is 148!!!
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
pffft hahaha the first ball is 148!!!
Just gently rolling the arm over at the moment
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Good work Blundell - he's out-batted Burns already!
Take these little wins where you can get them!
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Aussies appealing like they're India in that over.
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Full delivery bounces over the keepers head.
That said, the keeper is standing too close.
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Starc trying to keep it full and do Blundell for pace like he's a tail ender. That tactic certainly worked against Jeet, Blundell looks like he can at least handle the full quick delivery a lot better.
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Despite the belief that NZ batsman can't handle 150kph, we do actually have fast bowlers in NZ who can bowl that, so NZ batsmen have had some practice.
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@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Despite the belief that NZ batsman can't handle 150kph, we do actually have fast bowlers in NZ who can bowl that, so NZ batsmen have had some practice.
I agree that we have those bowlers, but not a lot of experience facing that sort of pace on these sorts of wickets.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life Hussey doesn't really annoy me too much - but, I'm usually making coffee or getting a beer from the fridge when we cross to the cricket lab.
Agree on Mark Waugh - according to his brother, when Mark was walking off after scoring a century in his his first test he looked up at the players enclosure and said to Border - "I told you so - you should have picked me earlier", so I'm not really expecting him to take many prisoners.
Cleaning up the tail, but too little to late.
Can’t stand Hussey. To me he’s playing the Slater cheer leader role.
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Good thing here is that it's certainly not hooping around and there's not really been steepling bounce - maybe apart from that one NQ noted.
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Blundell went too hard at that one.
Showed some nice signs though.
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