Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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@No-Quarter Yeah - probably not a good decision, but it might just have been if Kane had made that runout.
Unfortunately, we need to play out of our skins and take everything to beat Australia.
The unfortunate thing is that while our batting line-up might almost edge theirs, their bowling is so much better than ours - to win we need a flattish track and to take everything.
The upside is that I haven't seen anything in this track that will make it as difficult as Perth, so we need to bat fucking well when we get our first dig and not give Lyon a chance to spin us out on the last day.
To ram the point home - my Australasian team - Latham, Warner, Labuschagne, Williamson (c), Smith, Taylor, Watling, Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood, Lyon.
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I can understand the decision to bowl first.
The pitch was not easy to deal with - an enormous crowd - their bowlers who bowl 20 km/h faster - our openers who are either green or out of form - also being out in the field in 20 degrees is far more pleasant than the temperatures forecast for the coming days.
I reckon if we had batted first we would be in big trouble.
What I can't understand is playing Santner - the bloke is punishing to watch bowl. That was a soft call not to drop him.
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@KiwiMurph
Bowling first seemed like the best option and hope for the best...
Missing runouts against Oz you will always get punished and a couple of pieces of luck went against us so I guess we just get up tomorrow with a relatively shiny nut and go like stink in the first session and hopefully playing on a road for the second half of the day.
Pitch looks like it could turn into anything so let’s just hope we get the best batting conditions, knock them over cheaply and score enough to take it to a decider in Sydney !
I am a positive supporter who has been hanging off the bandwagon for 50 years so indulge my fantasies 🤓 -
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The best batting conditions will be tomorrow afternoon and Saturday when we should be at the crease!
I watched something on TV about drop in pitches today so I feel quite qualified to comment on this!
Restrict them to 330 score 480 then bowl them out for 300 and it’s on😎
I’m taking my sons to the first day in Sydney and I want a decider dammit! -
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
And Seedy G gets him - but, probably not as cheaply as we should have and needed.
A like for "Seedy G"
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@KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I can understand the decision to bowl first.
The pitch was not easy to deal with - an enormous crowd - their bowlers who bowl 20 km/h faster - our openers who are either green or out of form - also being out in the field in 20 degrees is far more pleasant than the temperatures forecast for the coming days.
I reckon if we had batted first we would be in big trouble.
What I can't understand is playing Santner - the bloke is punishing to watch bowl. That was a soft call not to drop him.
I can sort of understand the forecast reasoning, but the rest just speaks to a complete lack of confidence. If we don't back our batsmen to put a total on the board batting first then we have no business touring Australia. Bowling first and hoping for the best very rarely works against them at home.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter Yeah - probably not a good decision, but it might just have been if Kane had made that runout.
Unfortunately, we need to play out of our skins and take everything to beat Australia.
The unfortunate thing is that while our batting line-up might almost edge theirs, their bowling is so much better than ours - to win we need a flattish track and to take everything.
The upside is that I haven't seen anything in this track that will make it as difficult as Perth, so we need to bat fucking well when we get our first dig and not give Lyon a chance to spin us out on the last day.
To ram the point home - my Australasian team - Latham, Warner, Labuschagne, Williamson (c), Smith, Taylor, Watling, Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood, Lyon.
Aussies look a lot better now they have Labuschagne. Out of nowhere they have another batsman who is seemingly world class. Warner is also very good when not facing Broad. Hard to argue with your bowling attack in their conditions. Their guys are quicker than ours - Boult/Southee generally need a bit of swing. In some conditions, I think we could take the Aussies but not on a pitch like this.
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Yuck. This is looking ominously familiar
They only need another 150 to be in a position where they won't lose.
Fair enough having a crack, and like day 1 in Perth, we haven't done much wrong and, Santner aside, bowled pretty well, but it's fine margins against oz in oz - you gotta get special run outs.
Australia got great, patient service from it's big 3 and have batted with incredible determination and steadfastness. Really impressive. Just what's needed to get the job done against our decent attack
The big news today is we have to set about getting 400 plus whatever the game situation, so that's something that has to happen lest the series gets dunny flushed right here and now.
Oz are hard to beat at home and this wicket will be a cnut to bat on last.
There's no daring to dream, but winning some sessions would be nice
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@hydro11 Yeah - it's not really a reflection on our guys.
If you were picking a World XI to play in Australia it probably wouldn't change much from the team I've named above.
Kohli would definitely come in.
Maybe Bumrah or Rabada. Maybe Ashwin or Jadeja for Lyon. Maybe Rohit for Latham. But all these guys would be marginal improvements, if at all.
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@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Under 3 an over and 4 down is an even day, not clearly better for one side. Hopefully we can clean them up under 350, but let's see.
Hmm - I don't really agree. Especially given that we have to win this test. If we can't clean them up for under 350 then I don't think we can win this series. 400 in the first innings is quite a lot these days given that batsmen aren't so dominant - 10 years ago you might be right.
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@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
They have just shown the Dick French "not out" call from 30 years ago. All I can say is fck that was so wrong. Michael Vaughn was spot on "well it wasn't hitting leg, and it wasn't hitting off..."
It was Whitney batting wasn't it?
McDermott i think.
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also, our attack of gallant, accurate swing bowlers just isn't quick enough in Australia. So we can apply pressure, but lack the threat to get the wickets. Australia are playing us so well, showing a heap of patience.
Aus will come in, with 3 blokes bowling 10-15kms faster and run through us. Awesome.
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Yeah - I think 220/4 was evens, so by stumps Australia were probably a wicket in hand ahead of the game. Now they've pressed on and are significantly ahead.
But, it's a bit worse, because we've inserted the Aussies and we know that their attack will be tougher than ours.
I think yesterday morning Kane wouldn't have taken 350 (though he'd think, at least we're in the game) - he'd have hoped for significantly better. Now he'd bite your hand off for 350.
On reflection, though - he possibly had to put them in. Conditions were overcast and likely to swing, so he had to give our bowlers that prospect while it was there.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
They have just shown the Dick French "not out" call from 30 years ago. All I can say is fck that was so wrong. Michael Vaughn was spot on "well it wasn't hitting leg, and it wasn't hitting off..."
It was Whitney batting wasn't it?
McDermott i think.
Right you are. Whitney held up the other end.
