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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Staying on the more crude foreign born stats.

    139 foreign born players at the 2019 RWC, there were 129 foreign born at the 2015 RWC.

    A comparison of 2015 to 2019 by country of birth of the 620 players:
    RWCdiff.PNG

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    @Rapido said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    Players at RWC 2019 by country of birth:

    RWCbirth.PNG

    For interest: Comparing to 'homegrown'. Using the standard of the tier2blogspot.

    I'd put NZ homegrown (or 'NZ produced') players at 82.

    The 80 NZ born. Removed 9 players who were NZ born but raised overseas*. Then add 11 players overseas born but were NZ raised**

    *players who were NZ born but overseas raised:

    • France 1: Vakatawa (Fiji raised)
    • Ireland 1: Carberry
    • Australia 3: all 3 (Leali’ifano, Lukhan, Uluses were Aussie raised)
    • Samoa 2: Seilala Lam & Paul Alo-Emile were Australian raised.
    • Japan 1: Michael Leitch (just squeezes in as Japanese homegrown by this standard)
    • England 1: Mako Vunipola

    **players overseas born but were NZ raised:

    • Samoa 6: Tusi Pisi, Jordan and James Lay, Ahsee Tuala, Jack Lam, Rey Lee-Lo
    • Australia 1: Kepu
    • Tonga 2: Maa'fu Fia and Takulua
    • NZ 2: Laulala & Tu'ungafasi

    Not included any scholarship players to NZ as NZ homegrown. Regardless of who they now play for. (Siua Maile, Alapati Leiua, Taniela Tupou).

    Not included Uew Helu of Japan and following from Tonga; Halonukanuka , Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, Sione Kalamafoni, Afa Pakalani, as all Tongan born and NZ Secondary schooled - but no details on when they moved so hard to differentiate from scholarship kids.

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    @Rapido said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    Japan 1: Michael Leitch (just squeezes in as Japanese homegrown by this standard)

    That dude's standard is so arbitrary, Leitch was a few months younger than Fakatava when he arrived in Japan and is considered Japanese homegrown and not NZ homegrown, yet Fakatava is considered Tongan homegrown.

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    @Nepia said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    @Rapido said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    Japan 1: Michael Leitch (just squeezes in as Japanese homegrown by this standard)

    That dude's standard is so arbitrary, Leitch was a few months younger than Fakatava when he arrived in Japan and is considered Japanese homegrown and not NZ homegrown, yet Fakatava is considered Tongan homegrown.

    @Nepia said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    @Rapido said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    Japan 1: Michael Leitch (just squeezes in as Japanese homegrown by this standard)

    That dude's standard is so arbitrary, Leitch was a few months younger than Fakatava when he arrived in Japan and is considered Japanese homegrown and not NZ homegrown, yet Fakatava is considered Tongan homegrown.

    You're probably mixing his standard and my standard. I dont know if he would classify a Fakatava, at 16, as not homegrown. As no one meets that criteria this time.

    Laulala's youth background is blurry he might match Fakatava, who he counts as nz homegrown. Laulala went to college in both Samoa and NZ, yet his younger bro was born in NZ when Nepo was aged 3.

    His cutoff of 15/16 is vague. Probably as I suspect he uses the ARN article as the source. The ARN article I then assume uses official WR data showing year of residency, but not exact date. So he can't tell if the player is 15 or 16 etc.

    Excluding scholarship kids is purely my own standard. Tier2 guy doesn't actually have any homegrown numbers, just percentages, in his blog post. So can't tell we are counting the same way.

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    @Rapido Ah, this is so confusing. 🤦🏾♂

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    Fofana out of the World Cup! That's a big loss for the French.

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    Heartbreak for Wesley Fofana as his World Cup is over before it got started

    Heartbreak for Wesley Fofana as his World Cup is over before it got started

    The 2019 World Cup was supposed to be a fitting end to Wesley Fofana's Test level career, but injury has prematurely forced him out of Jacques Brunel's French squad.

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    TONGA DRAFT REPLACEMENT FOR INJURED KURT MORATH

    OSAKA, 24 Sep – Fly-half Kurt Morath has been replaced in Tonga's World Cup squad after he was injured in Sunday's 35-3 defeat against England.
    
    Morath (TGA) remained in a Sapporo hospital on Tuesday awaiting news on whether he needs surgery on his throat, injured when Manu Tuilagi accidentally caught him with his boot in a tackle, above, in the 49th minute.
    
    Tonga management have also confirmed that Nafi Tuitavake - on as a half-time replacement for winger Atieli Pakalani - broke his left arm late in the match as Tonga attacked the England line in search of a try.
    
    Latiume Fosita has been named as the replacement for Morath.
    
    "It is obviously desperately disappointing for Kurt and Nafi," said assistant coach Pita Alatini (NZL). "They have worked so hard to be here, but it means there are opportunities for others now."
    
    Tonga's next Pool C game is against Argentina in Hanazono on Saturday.
    
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    PYRGOS TO REPLACE INJURED PRICE

    Edinburgh scrum-half Henry Pyrgos will replace injured Glasgow Warriors counterpart Ali Price in the Scotland squad for Rugby World Cup 2019.
    
    The 28 times capped scrum-half sustained a foot injury in the national team's opening Pool A defeat to Ireland at the International Stadium Yokohama.
    
    The following day (Monday) the team travelled to Kobe – the host city of Scotland's next world cup clash against Samoa – where an x-ray confirmed he would play no further part in the tournament.
    
    The change will mean a second world cup appearance for his replacement, Pyrgos, who will seek to add to his 27 Scotland caps to date – the last of which came in the national team’s home win over Australia in 2017.
    
    Pyrgos is scheduled to arrive in Japan on Thursday and take his place in the 31-man group preparing to face the Pacific Islanders at the Kobe Misaki Stadium on Monday (30 September, kick-off 7.15pm).
    
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    Both of those are a big step down for their respective teams!

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    @MiketheSnow not as much of a blue to Wales, but will he be eligible for their next game or are Wales playing that one with two locks?

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    @Machpants said in 2019 RWC - Squads:

    @MiketheSnow not as much of a blue to Wales, but will he be eligible for their next game or are Wales playing that one with two locks?

    My guess is two locks - AWJ and Ball

    Unless Beard is fit.

    At a push, Navidi or Shingler could lock

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    Shingler was the replacement lock against Georgia.

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    From the Manu Samoa FB page:

    #ManuSamoa Number 8 Afaesetiti has been ruled out of the rest of the Rugby World Cup with a knee injury. Coach Vaeluagaomatagi Steve Jackson said “We are absolutely gutted for Afa. We will miss him as he is a great man.”
    The coaching group is considering its options on who will be called up to join the Manu Samoa Rugby World Cup campaign.
    
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    @Stargazer Gutted for him and a loss at the back of the scrum. Come on Jordan Taufua, be his replacement haha.

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    @African-Monkey yes - straight away - definitely within the next 24 hours!

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    Fuck off you arses! 🙂

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    USA Eagles prop David Ainu’u has gone home to continue his recovery from an injury sustained against England. He has been replaced by Chance Wenglewski.

    https://rwc.usa.rugby/usa-injury-update-sept-28-2019/

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