Ashes 2019
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@Billy-Webb Well if the top few don't score you are always going to have issues. Roy doesn't look like a test cricketer to me (neither does Steve Smith - so what do I know).
As for English spinners...who was the last really, really good one??
And yes they are a handy side at ODI. They don't look so good at test cricket to me.
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@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
@MajorRage said in Ashes 2019:
I have a sneaky feeling here ... that England will still get a first innings lead. And ... I'm going to put my balls on the stone here.
Avatar for a week that England take a first innings lead.
Whose up for it?
Good on ya MR. Gutsy call. Not impossible. It only takes one meaningful stand...
Personally I think @NTA should be taking you up on this one. I'm just a neutral here.Agree, but the bet is only available until the next England wicket falls. And I suspect NTA maybe gone for the day now .... so if anybody else wants to take me on. Be my guest.
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@Snowy said in Ashes 2019:
@Billy-Webb Well if the top few don't score you are always going to have issues. Roy doesn't look like a test cricketer to me (neither does Steve Smith - so what do I know).
As for English spinners...who was the last really, really good one??
And yes they are a handy side at ODI. They don't look so good at test cricket to me.
Agree with all of that - including the part of Steve Smith not looking like a test cricketer. Hell, he doesn't look like someone who could be scoring runs in any form of the game so I will join you in the "what the hell do I know" naughty corner.
I reckon Swann was probably their last very good spinner.
But the problem for England right now is that no-one has any form with the bat except maybe Stokes.
If Root and Bairstow could find some runs, their pace bowlers could back them up. Archer, Broad and Woakes have been good imo.EDIT: the above could easily describe the Proteas too!
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@MajorRage said in Ashes 2019:
@NTA said in Ashes 2019:
23°C at Leeds right now.
25°C predicted for my place tomorrow.
Summer?
24 overs in the session (bit slow)
54 runs
6 wicketsThere is nothing less boring in the world than Australians who post English Summer vs Aussie winter bullshit. Only seen it 48 million times. Get a new joke FFS.
Guess what. If I wanted to live somewhere with 40 degree summers, I would!
I don't! Deal with it!
Wait a decade. 40°C summers will become normal for Europe.
I was going to move onto my next point about the fact that bushfires have already started here in Winter, but that was going a bit off topic...
EDIT: I'm honestly pretty down about climate change at this point. Several sources I respect think our civilisation is fucked in roughly 2 decades.
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@NTA Are you taking on @MajorRage challenge re England getting a first innings lead?
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Funniest chirp on cricinfo:
"Am quite amazed that England did not lose a wicket during lunch. Surely their most productive 40 minutes of the day so far!"
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@Billy-Webb let's see this DRS first 😉
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@NTA if you were a brave betting guy, you should be backing Aussie to bowl England out for under 100...
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@MajorRage said in Ashes 2019:
@NTA 40 up here is 50 down there fella .... Take your pick!
We're all pretty much fucked at this point. I'll buy some land up in the high country with what remains of a water supply.
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@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
@NTA if you were a brave betting guy, you should be backing Aussie to bowl England out for under 100...
They're going too short to Archer at this point. Wasting time
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@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
I reckon Swann was probably their last very good spinner.
Yeah he was alright. I googled,to answer my own question, and found this guy (who should probably go in the "awesome internet stuff" too:
*7: Hedley Verity
40 Tests; 144 wickets; 24.37 average; 1.88 economy rateAnother Yorkshire native and another left-arm spinner, Hedley Verity was crucial for England in the period before the Second World War.
Regarded as the natural successor to fellow Yorkshireman Wilfred Rhodes, Verity regularly took wickets and often made match-winning contributions.
His career was cut short by the onset of the Second World War, and Verity died of wounds as a Prisoner of War in Italy.*
Just thought that was QI.
Otherwise, yes, Swann and Underwood before him.
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@Snowy said in Ashes 2019:
*7: Hedley Verity
40 Tests; 144 wickets; 24.37 average; 1.88 economy rateBloody hell. Those are bloody good stats! And I had never heard of the guy...
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@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
And I had never heard of the guy...
Me neither. Amazing what you find aye? Meantime England really need someone to stand up. Would actually be good if they were all out now, then NZ won't hold the record for lowest score at Headingley.
