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    @Tim without wanting to make light of mental health issues, if not getting picked for the ABs last year has caused him mental issues, I expect that is part of his problem in the first place and he was possibly mentally weak already...is Enoka still with the new coaching team, someone needs to get him in the right space, so much potential.

    Just my reading of that anyway.

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    @taniwharugby really not sure how you get mentally weak from reading that.

    He’s being brutally honest about a hugely disappointing chapter in his career. Is taking responsibility for it and has identified how to improve handling setbacks in the future.

    Talking about this instead of bottling it up, like he says in the article, is exactly what we want young men doing. Pretty mature reflection IMO.

    Looking forward to seeing if that shows up on the field. Not many players get this much bullshit written about them, even fewer get character assassinated by the AB coach. All very weird.

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    #632

    Starting XV:

    1 Alex Hodgman

    2 Kurt Eklund

    3 Marcel Renata

    4 Jacob Pierce

    5 James Tucker

    6 Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa

    7 Blake Gibson

    8 Akira Ioane

    9 Jonathan Ruru

    10 Otere Black

    11 A J Lam

    12 TJ Faiane ©

    13 Tamati Tua

    14 Mark Telea

    15 Matt Duffie

    Reserves:

    16 Ezekiel Lindenmuth

    17 Tevita Mafileo

    18 Ray Niuia

    19 Luteru Tolai/ Soane Vikena

    20 Sam Caird

    21 Aaron Carroll

    22 Josh Goodhue

    23 Dalton Papalii

    24 Tom Robinson

    25 Tony Lamborn

    26 Hoskins Sotutu

    27 Sam Nock

    28 Lewis Gjaltema

    29 Stephen Perofeta

    30 Jordan Hyland

    31 Harry Plummer

    32 Tanielu Tele’a

    33 Joe Marchant

    34 Emoni Narawa

    35 Zarn Sullivan

    https://blues.rugby/blues-name-first-team-for-2020/

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    @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby
    Not many players get this much bullshit written about them, even fewer get character assassinated by the AB coach. All very weird.

    Looks like Rieko has had a few things to say on this very topic today.

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    It’s probably the first time Akira has faced adversity in rugby and he hasn’t handled it too well, you could see last year in the ITM cup he was overweight and didn’t look interested. Hopefully a new year and new motivation will get him back to his best because he definitely possesses skills no other number 8 has

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby
    Not many players get this much bullshit written about them, even fewer get character assassinated by the AB coach. All very weird.

    Looks like Rieko has had a few things to say on this very topic today.

    Do you have a link?

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    @Nepia said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby
    Not many players get this much bullshit written about them, even fewer get character assassinated by the AB coach. All very weird.

    Looks like Rieko has had a few things to say on this very topic today.

    Do you have a link?

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    @Machpants said in Blues 2020:

    @Nepia said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby
    Not many players get this much bullshit written about them, even fewer get character assassinated by the AB coach. All very weird.

    Looks like Rieko has had a few things to say on this very topic today.

    Do you have a link?

    Fortnite Strategy Team  /  Oct 8, 2021

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    @Nepia said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby
    Not many players get this much bullshit written about them, even fewer get character assassinated by the AB coach. All very weird.

    Looks like Rieko has had a few things to say on this very topic today.

    Do you have a link?

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    @KiwiMurph I'm such an old man I don't know what those emojis/pics/whatever they're called mean.

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    @Nepia said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph I'm such an old man I don't know what those emojis/pics/whatever they're called mean.

    I imagine it means "A bit of food for thought"

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    @Nepia said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph I'm such an old man I don't know what those emojis/pics/whatever they're called mean.

    I imagine it means "A bit of food for thought"

    thanks, I read it as a bit of bread and eggs for something. Now I feel old.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    my comments above re 'mentally weak' relate to the fact we were lead to believe Akira knew where he stood, knew what he needed to do, but wasnt able to do what was required and then was distraught when he didnt make the RWC squad?

    without wanting to make light of mental health issues, if not getting picked for the ABs last year has caused him mental issues, I expect that is part of his problem in the first place and he was possibly mentally weak already...is Enoka still with the new coaching team, someone needs to get him in the right space, so much potential.

    TBF, I wrote my post above 3 or 4 times, never happy with the way it came across, but couildnt find a better way to write it.

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    my comments above re 'mentally weak' relate to the fact we were lead to believe Akira knew where he stood, knew what he needed to do, but wasnt able to do what was required and then was distraught when he didnt make the RWC squad?

    Sometimes people need a real wakeup call. Aaron Smith, Waisake Naholo - neither shone in the Blues wider training group/team. It took getting dropped to really turn them into stars. You never know, the same may happen to Akira.

    I disagree with @Tim; I don't think Steve H went for character assassination (and comparing someone to Jerome makes it pretty clear how highly they regard him). I think he was just frustrated at not getting through, and wanted to try and get the kick up the arse that Akira needed. The worrying thing for me is that Akira has gone backwards in the last few years. He's got all the gifts to be a global superstar, IF he can get his head right. Kind of like Peter Saili, Sione Lauaki ....

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    What did Hansen say that was bad? Or was it just that he was singled out?

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    11 A J Lam,
    Any relation to Ben?

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    @Toddy said in Blues 2020:

    What did Hansen say that was bad? Or was it just that he was singled out?

    **"It's the same problem he's always had," said the All Blacks coach. "He came into the season probably not as fit as he could have been, and played every game for the Blues at the same time as trying to get fit.

    "He's a tired athlete. Did we see the best of him? I don't think we did in Super Rugby and other people played particularly well and put themselves in front of him."

    "We know what's under the surface but we just need him to take ownership of that and turn up and say 'I'm in'. Once he does that I'm sure he'll get selected one day.

    "At the moment he hasn't done that. You can only lead a horse to water – you can't make it drink. He's got to decide to get thirsty."**

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/113987258/all-blacks-reject-akira-ioane-gets-message-not-fit-enough-tired-surpassed

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    Yeah horrible, telling everyone what is obvious - Akira was not performing to his capabilities.

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    oh good, must be nearly super rugby season, we are having the same dumb conversation.

    So we may as well all lay out the same shit we have always do.

    I would have no problems with what Hansen said, if the then didn't immediately select a bunch of loose forwards with worse levels of performance, or very little performance, making his comments look a tad contrived. And that was over a couple of years.

    And, given Fat Steve's selection of loose forwards this year, i would say he had a bit of a blindspot there too.

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    Big Karl has also been named on the bench for the Blues game today.

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