CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia
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@nzzp said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@shark said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Neesham and Santner our last hope.
Too much to do
Needed to get our hitters within 60-70 I think. Well played Aus, good side. Will take some beatingAus and India are miles ahead of the pack at the moment. Should be a cracking final between the two.
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So, the problems.
Lack of production from the openers, and the runs Guptill did get were slow. Kane and Rosco needed to resurrect the innings but took 'slow and steady wins the race' too far. Fine if one of them batted through and got a big score for others to bat around, but that didn't happen. They can't carry us all the time. This meant the woefully out of form Latham would come in with a lot to do, but of course he couldn't and his innings contributed to the run rate getting out of control. Then a silly promotion for CDG and even sillier shot. Six down, run rate getting OTT and only one hope in Neesham. Too much to ask.
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@shark said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Lack of production from the openers, and the runs Guptill did get were slow. Kane and Rosco needed to resurrect the innings but took 'slow and steady wins the race' too far.
Absolutely. If you're going to survive and eat balls, you have to go big, take the team deep, and put us in a place to win. Otherwise you soak up time, ramp the run rate and leave with too much to do.
Also - their bowlers were better than I expected. They look in some form, looking forward to a cracking final.
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This is just embarrassing. What a terrible batting effort. I do feel for Nicholls, rusty as hell and his first game he gets to face lowly unrated easy beats Australia who have a bowling line up of med slow part timers.
Congrats to Trent on his hat trick. Kane and Ross hit 70 between them. Everyone else sucked. -
How important was the implosion from Braithwaite when the Windies had victory in sight..?,
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We got taught a lesson. Loved all the close ups of Guptill because his performance was Australia’s greatest asset next to Carey.
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I have to wonder about the management of the batsmen leading into and during the tournament. As Mokey said, Nicholls hadn't had a knock in ages and was then asked to perform vs one of the top two sides in the tournament. He had been the incumbent but was ignored once fit in favour of the useless Munro. Guppy came from the IPL but played fuck all. Latham's prep was limited due to injury in the early warm-up games and the form back up has been ignored. Little wonder there is so much pressure on Kane and Rosco.
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@Steven-Harris said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
How important was the implosion from Braithwaite when the Windies had victory in sight..?,
We really would be in the gun..!Or the washout against India.
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Yeah the Sodhi selection was an odd one also. Didn't pick him on a pitch which out and out demanded they did, but then brought him in on a so-so pitch pretty much entirely only because it had been used.
Starting to really question Steads' selectorial nous.
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Become a bit hardened to it over the years ,
Aussies nearly always seem to have our number when it matters ,
Pretty much a mirror image of the ABs Wallabies scenario
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@shark said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Yeah the Sodhi selection was an odd one also. Didn't pick him on a pitch which out and out demanded they did, but then brought him in on a so-so pitch pretty much entirely only because it had been used.
Starting to really question Steads' selectorial nous.
You can also question the wisdom of our poor build-up. The Nicholls Blundell non-selection (if he was previously fit) while the two out of form choices wasted all the reps against the lesser lights might come back to haunt us as the chances of getting those two up to speed now to slim. I think getting to the semis will be a good achievement for this team
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Pathetic
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Glass half full approach is I don't think we can beat Australia twice in a World Cup so better to lose to them in pool play.
And yes to have to play them twice we would have to make the semis.
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This game was so bloody frustrating. We had them on the ropes at 96-5. Took some screamer catches. Then let them off the hook with some average bowling. Then Trent's hat trick. But 244 was totally doable. Instead we brought in poor Nicholl to face the best and most in form team with no fucking matches behind him. Then our entire middle order crapped out. All we needed was one guy to make 50-60, then a few 30-40s and the rest to chip in. (Also a bit unfair on Sodhi, brought in rusty, on a pitch not suited to him, against Australia.)
Really perplexing choices made this game. And last up we have England. Goody.
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@canefan said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@shark said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Yeah the Sodhi selection was an odd one also. Didn't pick him on a pitch which out and out demanded they did, but then brought him in on a so-so pitch pretty much entirely only because it had been used.
Starting to really question Steads' selectorial nous.
You can also question the wisdom of our poor build-up. The Nicholls Blundell non-selection (if he was previously fit) while the two out of form choices wasted all the reps against the lesser lights might come back to haunt us as the chances of getting those two up to speed now to slim. I think getting to the semis will be a good achievement for this team
@Chris-B (who seems to have deserted us in our time of need) was at pains to point out that our lack of prep would hurt us and he's right. While Aus got their full strength side together for prep we played a B team. It's disappointing as we do have the talent but our selections and gameplans are letting us down.
