CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh
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@Chris-B said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
If it really comes down to it, most of the time Southee is going to be of quite a bit more use to us than de Grandhomme.
It's sort of nice having Colin sitting low in the batting order and thinking "he can ice this" or "this run rate's not beyond Colin", but when push comes to shove and we really need him, he's probably about as likely to pull a Coulter Nile as a latter day Luke Ronchi.
So maybe we should just play Timmy AND Matt.
Why can't we have both? That solves this debate. Southee has the ability to ice the cake as well, I'm not convinced CdG is worth the gamble any more than Munro, he rarely comes off. We really do have a problem with our 5th bowler as well given Neesh consistently sprays it around.
Stead I hope you're reading this.
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@No-Quarter said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@Chris-B said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
If it really comes down to it, most of the time Southee is going to be of quite a bit more use to us than de Grandhomme.
It's sort of nice having Colin sitting low in the batting order and thinking "he can ice this" or "this run rate's not beyond Colin", but when push comes to shove and we really need him, he's probably about as likely to pull a Coulter Nile as a latter day Luke Ronchi.
So maybe we should just play Timmy AND Matt.
Why can't we have both? That solves this debate. Southee has the ability to ice the cake as well, I'm not convinced CdG is worth the gamble any more than Munro, he rarely comes off. We really do have a problem with our 5th bowler as well given Neesh consistently sprays it around.
Stead I hope you're reading this.
Geez if you're a Black Cap and your names Colin you really are on the fern shit list.......
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Fair to say the only reason Henry is in the frame and is close to being a certainty in the team is post 2015 Southee has fallen away badly completed to pre 2015.
Stats don’t lie, since taking the 7for vs the Poms in that game he’s struggled to take wickets.
Averaging over 40 is not going to help any team.
Not sure if it’s an age thing or simply loss of form. But he’s definitely no longer deserving of an automatic spot in the team. -
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@No-Quarter said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@Chris-B said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
If it really comes down to it, most of the time Southee is going to be of quite a bit more use to us than de Grandhomme.
It's sort of nice having Colin sitting low in the batting order and thinking "he can ice this" or "this run rate's not beyond Colin", but when push comes to shove and we really need him, he's probably about as likely to pull a Coulter Nile as a latter day Luke Ronchi.
So maybe we should just play Timmy AND Matt.
Why can't we have both? That solves this debate. Southee has the ability to ice the cake as well, I'm not convinced CdG is worth the gamble any more than Munro, he rarely comes off. We really do have a problem with our 5th bowler as well given Neesh consistently sprays it around.
Stead I hope you're reading this.
Henry is probably just as useful with the bat at 7 or 8 than CdG..... down the selection rabbit hole we go
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@Siam said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
Colin bighouse has given us two vital wickets so far, very well done him
Munro averaging 70odd, could this be a stellar world cup for our 2 much maligned Colin's?
So far very good
He choked like a dog batting vs the Bangles. When he meekly chipped a ball between two fielders I knew he was going to bottle it
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@Siam said in CWC Game #2 Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
Colin bighouse has given us two vital wickets so far, very well done him
Munro averaging 70odd, could this be a stellar world cup for our 2 much maligned Colin's?
So far very good
Colin "The Big Man"! We need him to be.
Problem with the Colins is that they're sort of the same player - gambit players who might come off but probably won't - we can probably afford one of them, but not both.
On the other hand, we're not really good enough to win this Cup by playing conservatively - we need to roll the dice and risk going down in flames.
It is interesting that Munro is trying to rein himself in, but I'm still pretty sure that Bumrah and Woakes have his number, and Mitch Starc will find it in the phone book.
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I agree with the above, have Henry AND Southee to cover opening + death bowling, and mug off Colin bigman. Henry/Southee will together probably produce as many runs in the last 5-7overs slogging, and if CDG comes in with 15 overs+ to bat we're probably screwed at that point anyway.
I reckon our best team is:
- Guppy
- Nicholls
- Kane
- Rossco
- Latham (wk)
- Neesham
- Satnav
- Southee
- Henry
- Ferguson
- Boult
