Black Caps v Bangladesh
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
Yeah Munro isn't making the CWC squad now. Probably opens up a slot for Sodhi if Stead wants to take three spinners to the CWC.
I still reckon he'll make it. they've invested alot in him.
I think he's in, as well.
First choice XI - Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham, Neesham, CDG, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
Spare batsman/allrounder - Munro
Spare keeper - Seifert
Spare seamer - Southee
Spare spinner - AstleProviso that Sodhi or Milne might yet take one of the spare slots - but, I can't see really see an alternative to Munro - unless Corey Anderson suddenly comes good. Even then - he's not going to cover the top order batting spots.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
Yeah Munro isn't making the CWC squad now. Probably opens up a slot for Sodhi if Stead wants to take three spinners to the CWC.
I still reckon he'll make it. they've invested alot in him.
I think he's in, as well.
First choice XI - Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham, Neesham, CDG, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
Spare batsman/allrounder - Munro
Spare keeper - Seifert
Spare seamer - Southee
Spare spinner - AstleProviso that Sodhi or Milne might yet take one of the spare slots - but, I can't see really see an alternative to Munro - unless Corey Anderson suddenly comes good. Even then - he's not going to cover the top order batting spots.
No saying I agree with it. I just can't see them getting rid of him this late in the piece.
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The Bang Bros are trying to match Oman's score against Scotland.....
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Southee gets a michelle.. a very expensive Michelle
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Oh and the banger who scored his ton, has he been watching too many David Warner highlights?
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@dogmeat said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
8,000 ODI runs for Roscoe
this is such a fantastic effort and massive for anyone let alone a Black Cap. GOAT at ODI level ? I think so. Given he walks into an all time test team too I'm gonna go on record saying she's gonna be a sad day when he hangs up the pads.
I applaud your bravery in going out on a limb like that
farrrrk off carrrrnt.
Let me have my moment.
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
Oh and the banger who scored his ton, has he been watching too many David Warner highlights?
Anyone would have thought he scored a match winning 100...seemed like its the first time he's ever scored a ton in international cricket..
oh wait it was..
some of you guys are just haters -
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@kev said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@Gunner our catching has overall been really poor. Throwing at the stumps also below standard. For a side that has always made up ground with its fielding the Indian side was clearly better in the field.
That's my biggest concern going into the CWC. I think on our day we have the talent to match it with the big boys, but if our fielding is as poor as it has been this summer it will definitely cost an important match. I would hate us to be a couple of dropped catches away from making the semis/final...
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
Yeah Munro isn't making the CWC squad now. Probably opens up a slot for Sodhi if Stead wants to take three spinners to the CWC.
I still reckon he'll make it. they've invested alot in him.
I think he's in, as well.
First choice XI - Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham, Neesham, CDG, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
Spare batsman/allrounder - Munro
Spare keeper - Seifert
Spare seamer - Southee
Spare spinner - AstleProviso that Sodhi or Milne might yet take one of the spare slots - but, I can't see really see an alternative to Munro - unless Corey Anderson suddenly comes good. Even then - he's not going to cover the top order batting spots.
I see the four reserves being Southee (seamer), Astle (allrounder and Stead's favourite player), Sodhi (spinner) and Seifret (batsman/keeper). The first choice XI is spot on.
Corey Anderson could still sneak in and I'm not certain that Seifret has his spot yet (Tom Blundell could be a bolter there).
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@Sneakdefreak I think if Seifert was a serious contender to cover the batting, surely they would have given him an ODI game against the Indians or the Bangles?
You could be right about three spinners, but only if they expect to play two of them in almost all matches (Astle probably subbing in for CdG).
I'm not sure that either of Astle or Santner are such vital cogs in the wheel that if they got injured you wouldn't just ship them home and fly in Ish.
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@Chris-B Should have played Seifert but Stead stuck to his best side throughout that series although it would have made more sense to trial the guys in contention for the reserve spots (Seifret, Sodhi, Astle, Bundell, Young etc).
I'm not sold on Seifert at all and would rather make Nicholls the backup but it's probably too much to place on Nicholls since he is already covering batting positions 1-6. In saying that, Seifert is a similar batsman to Munro imo and Munro is a naff bowler while Seifert can keep so Seifert > Munro there.
I'm only going with three spinners because we are apparently playing at venues where spin is favoured so it would be wise to have more than one and a half options of Santner and maybe Williamson.
Last CWC we went with three bowlers and one keeper/batsman as our reserves (Mills, McCleghan, N McCullum and Latham) and don't see us changing that.
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@Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
I'm not sold on Seifert at all and would rather make Nicholls the backup but it's probably too much to place on Nicholls since he is already covering batting positions 1-6. In saying that, Seifert is a similar batsman to Munro imo and Munro is a naff bowler while Seifert can keep so Seifert > Munro there.
Problem with Seifert is that he's only batted in two ODIs and never in the top order. So most likely they'd move Latham and have Seifert take the gloves and bat lower down.
Whereas Munro is arguably direct cover for Guptill, Nicholls, Neesham and CdG - and indirect cover for Little Kane and Rossco (Nicholls moving down). Admittedly somewhat shit cover - but, cover.
Agree that Stead was too conservative - especially against the Bangles. Although I guess he did rest Little Kane. I would have rested Boult instead of Henry in the last one, as well.
Overall, I don't think we've really got the quality to win this CWC - we've got just enough to possibly fluke it. I'd say a par performance would be scrapping into the play-offs...or perhaps even just missing out.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:
Problem with Seifert is that he's only batted in two ODIs and never in the top order.
At this point that likely works in his favour. The book is out on Munro. Now I favour the chances of an unknown Seifert having a big knock that Munro whatever theoretical T20 form we thought he might have.
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@rotated I guess that the international analysts won't have looked at Seifert much might be an advantage in the short run.
Can't say I'd expect a great deal from either him or Munro - but, at this late stage, I'm thinking they'll both be there - I'm hoping neither will be required to play.
Bigger immediate concern is what we're likely to see from Nicholls when we're chasing 320+ to win. He's not shown much capacity to really go from ball 1.
