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    #484

    @taniwharugby
    Should have been 22 to 25...you got me.

    Yes we were outmuscled by SA but it was worse than that, there were bad decisions, poor skills, and lazy body language/poor communication.

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    Just heard on the radio, NZ were turning down kicks at goal...Maths obviously was not a strong point with some of these kids, you would think they would have known exactly what was required to progress..
    On saying all that, are we that surprised...?

    Just on the spark ,I bought Sparks coverage of RWC at the cheap price as back just in case TVNZs live coverage of all games fall over..!,it’s a bit of joke on my part, but watch that space ..!

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    #486

    We've said from the beginning: Philpott is a shit coach and doesn't know how to select the best possible team. If you leave better players - with Mitre 10 Cup experience - at home, you can't expect anything better. Add to that the attitude that it isn't about winning, and your fate is sealed. I agree, the coach has to go, but will NZR have the guts to let him go?

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    #487

    @Steven-Harris Burke isn't a very good goal kicker anyway. That's another reason why they needed Toala.

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    #488

    South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

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    #489

    All those players on the extended bench who didn't get a run get to avoid any blame!

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    #490

    @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

    South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

    Based on how the tournament has been reffed, I was surprised it wasn't a yellow but I don't think he actually connected with the head, it just glanced off his upper shoulder and looked bad because of the whiplash.

    Playing with fire hitting anywhere near the upper shoulder these days.

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    #491

    @mofitzy_ one of those ones where if he was YC'd he should have zero to complain about (probably should have been though), but also one where you need to look at it in the context of player height and he is dropping too...sometimes it isnt easy for the tackler to adjust his height line once committed.

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    #492

    @mofitzy_ said in 2019 under 20's:

    3rd yellow card for SA and penalty try NZ. 19-10.

    SA got 3 cards and they still lost?

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    @Dice
    Yes, and at least one was their most physical forward. NZ were playing with no energy or initiative most times, and when they did they would make a bad decision or a handling error.

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    #494

    For who missed the game and still want to watch it, this is the link to the full match video: https://www.sparksport.co.nz/match/9516b311-7d8b-4dae-92e8-5f86a8588696?fbclid=IwAR30EXFzQ9LuYiFiN1S5E6vqXDtwnfYu_9GVZiFhFVMv9kxZgMy6Sf9EBps

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    #495

    Coach would surely go after 3 years anyway. Win, lose or draw.

    In fact it's a waste to waste 3 years of tournament experience on the same guy. Should be a pathway for coaches just (currently) below SR level.

    Sign of the times maybe? No coaches left in the country.

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    #496

    Also, i just dont like this sport anymore. Its card crazy and the fans have quickly adopted to card-braying ickiness.

    I'm watching out of habit, not love.

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    @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

    South Africans on twitter are complaining

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    #498

    Mark Hammett probably in line for the job down the line he is NZ schoolboy's coach for 2019

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    #499

    Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

    If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

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    #500

    @barbarian IMO def Yellow.

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    #501

    @barbarian said in 2019 under 20's:

    Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

    If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

    I think it's a red card. It's very similar to the shoulder charge (against his opponent's throat) for which Fifita was red carded in the Sharks v Hurricanes game.

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    But it's not a shoulder charge. Watching it in real time, it's clearly a tackle. He wraps both his arms around the player.

    It's a little bit upright, sure, but it's fundamentally a rugby play. If that's now a red card, then you could give 2-3 a game I reckon.

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    @barbarian said in 2019 under 20's:

    Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

    If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

    Absolutely ridiculous to consider that a red card. What needs to be taken into account is the height with which someone approaches contact - if they're going to run into contact bending down then that should mitigate what would otherwise be a perfectly fine front on tackle.

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