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  • antipodeanA Online
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    @Cyclops said in 2019 under 20's:

    @Rapido said in 2019 under 20's:

    @Cyclops said in 2019 under 20's:

    Bit late to the party on this one but I really like the trial reserve rules. Opens up way more tactics for substitutions. Trying to close out a close one? Bring on the better defensive players. Need to play catch up? Put out an aggressive attacking backline.

    Coaches basically programme in their subs as part of game planning now, this would open things up and reward the better tactical coaches.

    Yet, we still got uncontested scrums in just the third match this was trialled ......

    I don't see the point of this other than an arms race to exclude rugby upsets ever happening again.

    T2 nations with weak benches? Go fuck yourselves you pathetic pieces of shits, I want more pawns to move on my coaches chessboard. Actually, tbh I just want to second guess my coach's chess moves from the couch.

    Club teams scratching to get 15 players each week let alone 23 and now possibly 28 if you want to match the Ponsonby's of the world and not get blown away in the last quarter every fucking weekend. Just fold the club and close your doors, maybe by merging with a Ponsonby.

    It's still the same number of actual changes though. So there's no difference in terms being able to replace players. It just means the coach has a range of options for who to bring on. Probably reduces the value of utilities massively.

    I can see how below professional level where numbers aren't a given in gives an unfair advantage but bring in on for the pros. Make subs a real tactical decision and not just 'shifts'.

    Go watch NFL ffs.

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    #211

    A world cup warm up match.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy And today the Boks bet Wales 34-31 after being down 24-7. The advantage of a team being together and playing for 4-5mnths as the NH teams do, look sharpe! Even though only clips compare that to the games we have played and they look more polished which is what you would expect. Fowards big with offloading skills worries me against our boys...big difference.

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    The team vs Aus:

    1. Ollie Norris (Waikato)

    2. Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)

    3. Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)

    4. Cullen Grace (Canterbury)

    5. Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)

    6. Samipeni Finau (Waikato)

    7. Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)

    8. Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)

    9. Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)

    10. Fergus Burke (Canterbury)

    11. Scott Gregory (Northland)

    12. Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)

    13. Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)

    14. Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)

    15. Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

    16. Shilo Klein (Canterbury)

    17. George Dyer (Waikato)

    18. Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Wellington)

    19. Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)

    20. Taine Plumtree (Wellington)

    21. James Thompson (Waikato)

    22. Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)

    23. Simon Parker (Waikato)

    24. Taufa Funaki (Auckland)

    25. Rivez Reihana (Waikato)

    26. Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

    27. Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)

    28. Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)

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    Philpott said a range of factors were taken into consideration when selecting this team.
    
    “Some players have been selected on form but in some cases we are looking at developing combinations and ensuring players get solid game time.”
    
    The World Rugby trial to have an extended bench, with 14 players, eight of which are allowed to join the game, has added a different element to the series.
    
    “As coaches it means we have to be a bit more agile in our thinking. When you only have eight players on the bench you tend to pre plan a bit but here we have to think on our feet to get that maximum impact.”
    

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/34066/new-zealand-under-20-team-named-to-face-australia

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Philpott clearly doesn't want to win the Oceania Championship. That's not the best possible squad.

    Flanders seems to be injured, but why pick Finau, Burke and Forbes to start? Naming Toala on the bench instead of starting him is insane. Not sure whether the Aussies have it in them to beat us, but this NZ squad will have trouble enough beating some NH teams with their best line-up, let alone with the wrong starters. Would be keen to know which "combinations" crackpott is talking about.

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    #216

    It's a fairly ordinary Under 20s class this year tbh. I don't think we will be winning the WC anyway.

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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life True, but picking the right players for the right spots would help.

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    @Stargazer yeah a strange one that tbey haven't pick Toala. Unless he is injured and they won't actually play him off the bench.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Even with some strange selections we will beat Australia,I hope he is just trying to find out a few things before the WC otherwise we will struggle at that Tournament.
    It seems Burke is rated highly interesting.

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    Philpott's contract duration wasn't published in the announcement of his appointment. He really hope this is his last year.

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    #221

    Livestream (I'll be watching it later again):

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  • TimT Away
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    Australia up 12 - 0 after 36 min.

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  • 9 Offline
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    What a terrible game from NZ. Even if we somehow win this nobody in here looks class. Will need ALL our unavailable players to make it to even semis at Torny.

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    @98blueandgold Was it a surprise that Rob Cobb was omitted from the squad?

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    #225

    Both these teams hate each other fuck

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    98blueandgold
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    @Tim so was I. 7man scrum pushes us back, three line outs in a row lost, multiple drop balls, we look lacklustre on attack and defence has lots of holes. Very unimpressed!

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    FFS. An eight man NZ scrum is pushed back by a seven man Australian one and we lose possession. Halftime, NZ down 0-12, Australia currently down to 14 men

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    I’ve said it before but no. 4-10 are the weakest I’ve seen for us at this level. Need Vaai and Fanders to play but nothing outside that.

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    Geez, 98, if our eight-man scrum could demolish the Australian seven-man one that time, why couldnt we do it earlier?

    Yep, 4-10 does not inspire confidence.

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