World & NZ Rugby Awards 2018
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
Odd.No that odd given what his team finally achieved.
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@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
Going back to back in Super Rugby has been done before. And given the shit state of the competition, I don't consider it that much of an achievement.
Now if Alama can't take credit because other people were involved, why should Razor?
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@antipodean said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
Going back to back in Super Rugby has been done before. And given the shit state of the competition, I don't consider it that much of an achievement.
Now if Alana can't take credit because other people were involved, why should Razor?
I don't understand this comment. I didn't make, nor imply it.
Robertson changed the team from a team that couldn't win the SR competition for years, into a team that won it back-to-back in his first and second year as an SR coach. I rate Super Rugby higher than Mitre 10 Cup, so that's why I consider that a greater achievement. But having said that, I'm happy for Alama Ieremia, he did an awesome job with Auckland.
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
Going back to back in Super Rugby has been done before. And given the shit state of the competition, I don't consider it that much of an achievement.
Now if Alama can't take credit because other people were involved, why should Razor?
I don't understand this comment. I didn't make, nor imply it.
Robertson changed the team from a team that couldn't win the SR competition for years, into a team that won it back-to-back in his first and second year as an SR coach. I rate Super Rugby higher than Mitre 10 Cup, so that's why I consider that a greater achievement. But having said that, I'm happy for Alama Ieremia, he did an awesome job with Auckland.
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
Going back to back in Super Rugby has been done before. And given the shit state of the competition, I don't consider it that much of an achievement.
Now if Alana can't take credit because other people were involved, why should Razor?
I don't understand this comment. I didn't make, nor imply it.
That's what I inferred when you said "he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top".
Robertson changed the team from a team that couldn't win the SR competition for years, into a team that won it back-to-back in his first and second year as an SR coach. I rate Super Rugby higher than Mitre 10 Cup, so that's why I consider that a greater achievement.
Alama took a team that hadn't won a competition for longer. Normally I'd rate Razor's achievement higher, but Super Rugby is shit.
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@stargazer thanks for the coverage some interesting results..!
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@antipodean said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
Going back to back in Super Rugby has been done before. And given the shit state of the competition, I don't consider it that much of an achievement.
Now if Alama can't take credit because other people were involved, why should Razor?
I don't understand this comment. I didn't make, nor imply it.
Robertson changed the team from a team that couldn't win the SR competition for years, into a team that won it back-to-back in his first and second year as an SR coach. I rate Super Rugby higher than Mitre 10 Cup, so that's why I consider that a greater achievement. But having said that, I'm happy for Alama Ieremia, he did an awesome job with Auckland.
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
@antipodean It's not odd that he was nominated, but he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top, and winning back-to-back titles in Super Rugby should have topped it IMO.
Going back to back in Super Rugby has been done before. And given the shit state of the competition, I don't consider it that much of an achievement.
Now if Alana can't take credit because other people were involved, why should Razor?
I don't understand this comment. I didn't make, nor imply it.
That's what I inferred when you said "he wasn't the only one bringing a team back to the top".
Robertson changed the team from a team that couldn't win the SR competition for years, into a team that won it back-to-back in his first and second year as an SR coach. I rate Super Rugby higher than Mitre 10 Cup, so that's why I consider that a greater achievement.
Alama took a team that hadn't won a competition for longer. Normally I'd rate Razor's achievement higher, but Super Rugby is shit.
I meant that Robertson did it, too, at SR level.
I've heard people often say that M10 Cup is broken, by the way.
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby Awards 2018:
Hmmm, don't agree with this one either.
Risi Pouri-Lane won two international gold medals this year, one as captain of the U18 Baby Ferns at the Youth Olympics.
In fact Christie was so good he led his team to WC success. Oh, that's right!
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@majorrage I don't think it's PC bollocks. The reason for the separate women's award was that the other awards were traditionally only awarded to men. So it's existence is historical and IMO - initially - justified. But I agree, that now that female players can finally also win the other awards, there's no reason anymore to maintain that separate award for female players.
