2018 New Zealand Schools

[98blueandgold]

I am involved in coaching 1stXV and have coached some of these boys and against some. Looking at the list it's reasonably accurate, there are always going to be arguments either way. There are some schools who win because they have a more even spread of talent or team culture and those that have 3-4 very talented individuals. In the end the cream rises to the top ABs etc. example the 2015 WC starting team 8 did not play NZ schools. Not an exact science. Rules like league contracts etc play a huge part as has been mentioned

[98blueandgold]

@chchfanatic 20s if far more accurate as a number do not make 20s from school. example from this years rugby championship if played schools, 20s both or none. only 12 have played both schools and 20s I think

Hookers
Dane Coles 21s only
Nathan Harris 20s only
Codie Taylor both

Props
Owen Franks both
Joe Moody none
Tim Perry none
Karl Tu'inukuafe none
Ofa Tuungafasi both

Locks
Scott Barrett 20s only
Brodie Retallick 20s only
Samuel Whitelock both

Loose Forwards
Sam Cane both
Shannon Frizell neither
Jackson Hemopo 20s
Kieran Read both
Ardie Savea both
Liam Squire neither
Luke Whitelock both

Backs:
Halfbacks
TJ Perenara both
Aaron Smith 20s only
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi 20s only

First five-eighths
Beauden Barrett 20s only
Damian McKenzie both
Richie Mo'unga 20s only

Midfielders
Ryan Crotty both
Jack Goodhue 20s only
Anton Lienert-Brown 20s only (but wld have rep schools if not inj prob.)
Sonny Bill Williams none

Outside backs
Jordie Barrett 20s only
Rieko Ioane both (never played 20s though)
Nehe Milner-Skudder none
Waisake Naholo 20s only
Ben Smith none

also from 2014-2016 nz schools squads 38/72 have gone onto NZ 20s WC squad, a number of others have been involved in lead up but not made final squad or been inj.

[Bovidae]

@machpants said in 2018 New Zealand Schools:

Not many from outside the 'big name colleges', but one from my old school Wai Col which is nice to see!

Aotea College would be in the same category from the Wellington region.

[Siam]

Any sons of, or nephews?

Unfortunately it's my best tool for keeping an active eye on the future

By the way great knowledge and involvement of these young fellas - much respect

[booboo]

@Stargazer

Stewart Cruden - Palmerston North Boys' High School

From Palmy, same name ... what relation?

[chchfanatic]

@booboo brother

[booboo]

Thanks @chchfanatic

What position? (If it was in the article I apologise in advance ... my level of interes t only warrants skimming over the team list and seeing what schools were represented

[Bovidae]

@booboo 1st 5 also.

[Stargazer]

NZ Māori Under 18 team

Bailey Gordon - Western Heights High School - Te Arawa
Billy Priestly - Gisborne Boys' High School - Ngāti Porou, Te Aitanga a Hauiti
Chris Hemi - St Patrick's College, Silverstream - Ngāti Kahungunu
Cortez-Lee Ratima - Hamilton Boys' High School - Ngāti Maniapoto, Ngāti Tama
Damarus Hokianga - Hastings Boys' High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
Daniel Rona - New Plymouth Boys' High School - Te Atiawa
Jack Gray - Ponsonby Rugby Club - Ngāti Whakaue
Jayden Walker - Napier Boys' High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
Jordan Thompson-Dunn - Hastings Boys' High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
Kynan Stowers-Smith - St Bede's College - Ngāti Tama
Leo Ngatai-Tafau - St Peters College (Auckland) - Ngāti Porou, Tainui
Leo Thompson - Napier Boys' High School - Ngai Tā Manuhiri, Ngāti Rangiwewehi
Niko Manaena - Southland Boys' Boys High School - Ngāti Porou, Ngai Tahu, Ngāti Kahungunu
Nikora Broughton - Hato Paora College - Ngāti Ruanui, Ngā Rauru, Te Āti Haunui ā Papaprangi
Oliver Parkinson - Auckland Grammar School - Te Arawa, Te Rarawa
Raniera Peterson - Upper Hutt Rams - Ngāti Kahungunu
Ruben Love - Palmerston Boys' High School - Te Atiawa
Samuel Sexton-Walton - Karamu High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
Taylor Dale - Otago Boys' High School - Ngāpuhi, Ngāti Whatua
Te Paea Cook-Savage - St Paul's Collegiate - Ngai Takato
Te Rama Reuben - Rotorua Boys' High School - Ngāti Awa, Ngati Rangi, Te Arawa
Terrell Peita - Mt Albert Grammar - Te Rarawa Kaiwhare
Thomas Murray-Edwards - New Plymouth Boys' High School - Ngati Whakaue
Tiaki Fabish - Napier Boys' High School - Ngāti Maniapoto, Te Whanau ā Apanui
Zach Ririnui - Rotorua Boys' High School - Ngai Te Rangi, Ngāti Ranginui

Unavailable due to injury: Werohika Witaka and Sione Tuliakiono

The team will assemble in Wellington on 22 September before matches against the New Zealand Schools Barbarians (27 September) and Fiji Schools (5 October).

[Rapido]

Some Rotorua BHS players actually under 18? Pull the other one .....

[Bovidae]

I'm not familiar with the coaches (Rua Wanoa and Kahu Carey). Where are they from?

[Stargazer]

@bovidae

Google tells me that Rua Wanoa is a former prop (who has played in the Wanganui club comp). He has been the head coach of this team at least since 2016.

Kahu Carey is (or was) a coach educator working for the Canterbury rugby union (previously, a rugby development officer at the Ellesmere rugby sub-union), who has also coached the Canterbury Maori team in recent years. He has been the backs coach of the NZ Maori U18 team previously.

[Bovidae]

@stargazer Thanks. I thought they might be 1st XV coaches.

[Higgins]

Samuel Sexton-Walton - Karamu High School - Ngāti Kahungunu

Another indication you can still make it from "unfashionable" rugby schools. Wonder what the odds are for him turning out for some Auckland school (or Hamilton BHS) next season?

[Nepia]

@higgins Probably at least a high chance he turns out for Hastings or Napier.

[Stargazer]

The NZ Schools and NZ Barbarians Schools squads have been selected.

New Zealand Schools
Iona Apineru - St Patrick's College - Silverstream (lock)
Louie Chapman - Christchurch Boys' High School (halfback)
Sam Darry - Christ's College (lock, apparently already over 2m tall last year)
Chay Fihaki - Sacred Heart College (first five-eighth)
Taufa Funaki - Sacred Heart College (halfback)
Matt Graham-Williams - St Kentigern College (prop, TH?)
Niko Jones - St Peter's College (loose forward)
Jacob Kneepkens - Francis Douglas Memorial College (first five-eighth? Played for 2017 NZ Fiji Schools 7s)
Joshua Lord - Hamilton Boys' High School (lock)
Josiah Maraku - Feilding High School (centre)
Thomas Martin - Hamilton Boys' High School (blindside flanker)
Saula Mau - Auckland Grammar School (according to google, he's a big lump of a TH prop, around 140kg?)
Blair Murray - New Plymouth Boys' High School (fullback)
Simon Parker - St Peter's School - Cambridge (lock/loosie)
George Prain - Rangiora High School (loose forward)
Isaiah Punivai - St Kentigern College (utility back, brother of Ngane)
Rivez Reihana - St Kentigern College (first five-eighth)
Anton Segner - Nelson College (loose forward, no. 8 )
Zarn Sullivan - King's College (first five-eighth, brother of Bailyn)
Tiaan Tauakipulu - St Kentigern College (prop)
Patrick Thacker - Christ's College (prop)
Tyrone Thompson - Napier Boys' High School (hooker)
Soane Vikena - Mt Albert Grammar School (loose forward??)
Ethan Webster-Nonu - Scots College (wing)
Tamaiti Williams - St Kentigern College (prop)
Gideon Wrampling - St Paul's Collegiate (midfielder, on greenandgoldrugby site described as poached by the Chiefs from the Reds)

The New Zealand Schools’ and New Zealand Schools’ Barbarians teams have today been selected for their 2018 campaigns. Players have been selected after three days in a development camp at Massey University’s Sport & Rugby Institute in Palmerston North.

New Zealand Schools’ Rugby Union chairman Garry Chronican named the New Zealand Schools’ team which features nine players from last year’s Schools' programme.

Coach Brad Mooar said the quality of players at this week's camp had been exceptional which made for a tough task in selecting the team.

"The selectors did a really great job in getting such a strong group of players together who have really embraced the last few days and made for an energising and positive environment.

"We have a few returning players which is good but these young men have bonded very quickly, its a tight group of players already and we hope this campaign will be the best rugby experience that they have had," said Mooar.

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New Zealand Barbarians Schools
Arthur Allen - Christ's College
James Arscott - Otago Boys' High School
Caleb Cavubati - Scots College
Stewart Cruden - Palmerston North Boys' High School
Corey Evans - Auckland Grammar School
Zach Gallagher - Christ's College
Josh Gimblett - Napier Boys' High School
Lukas Halls - King's College
Tahu Kaa - Christchurch Boys' High School
Benet Kumeroa - Auckland Grammar School
Peni Lasaqa - St Kentigern College
Mahonri Ngakuru - St Kentigern College
Jacob Payne - Southland Boys' High School
Noah Perelini - King's College
Robert Rush - St Kentigern College
SamSmith - Wairarapa College
Roderick Solo - Scots College
Ropati So'oalo - Aotea College
Poukohe Sorenson - Rotorua Boys High School
Kristian Standen - New Plymouth Boys' High School
Patrick Teddy - Napier Boys' High School
Junior Uelese - Scots College
Keelan Whitman - St Patrick's College - Wellington

NZ Schools' and NZ Schools' Barbarians teams named

The New Zealand Schools’ and New Zealand Schools’ Barbarians teams have today been selected for their 2018 campaigns. Players have been selected after three days in a development camp at...

[Stargazer]

Just noticing that of the 53 players invited to camp, 26 have been selected for NZ Schools, and only 23 for NZ Barbarians Schools. Which means that 4 players have not been selected at all. One of them is flanker Liam Udy-Johns from Hastings BHS. I haven't checked who the other three are. I'd be interested to know why these four players are not in the Barbarians squad. 23 players doesn't seem enough for two games, with the risk of injuries. Are they injured? Not wanted? Or maybe just a mistake in copying the list to the website (wouldn't be the first time on this website)?

[Bovidae]

It would be good to get a breakdown by position for the squads.

[Stargazer]

@bovidae I'll try adding the positions to the list later today.

[Bovidae]

@stargazer Just commenting that official lists of squads in alphabetical order isn't helpful if you aren't familiar with the players.

I have seen most of the Chiefs region players play so know about them but not those from the SI or Auckland/Wellington.