Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland
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@derm-mccrum said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
@crucial said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
The seems to be some green folk crawling out of the woodwork on the board today.
Really? Like who?
I'm nearly half Irish on mum's side. Definitely balances out the Scots side and isn't much help in terms of getting a golden tan.
Also I fucken hate BOD as mentioned above but he's retired now ( without a win against the ABs )
Fuck it, move over plenty of room for me on the bandwagon.
C'mon IRELAND!
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@machpants the Australian commentary team are starting to sound like Cheika as well. Kearns has always been unbalanced. The lack of accuracy in commentary just added to confusion.
The first 3 kickoffs to the Irish, they put a man up in the air with support to make sure they claimed the ball. Getting in front of Folau. Each time Folau jumped into the space from some distance to compete for the ball.
Every time he made contact with the Irish player knocking him away from his support. The first and second time the guy did a somersault, the third time the player landed on his shoulder and head and was concussed. No problems with competition in the air but if you are jumping into the contact zone, whereas the defending player is in the zone going straight up, then you (Folau) have to avoid contact.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
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@nepia said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Did anyone else find Ireland's celebrations at the end a bit over the top? They've used up their celebrations if they win the RWC.
You think they should have just shaken hands with each other and walked off the pitch?
Christmas must be a riot in your gaff.... ☺️
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Folau pulled the man down with his left hand for the yellow. Can’t do that in the lineout (always pinged) and a clear cut yellow (possibly more) in the air. Cheika is a knob
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What did Cheika actually say? Because the quotes I have read are fairly benign. He was asked multiple questions about the officiating, and dead batted tham fairly well, but maybe I've missed something.
I think the issued raised on this thread about Aussie 'antics' with the ref are more about commentators than players. Because I didn't see any major issues when I was at the game- no backchat, no heated confrontations, no niggle off the ball.
Contrast that with the behaviour of Owen Farrell in SA, and I'm rather happy with how our players carried themselves.
As for the decisions the,selves, as I've said elsewhere I'm taking a 'live and let live' approach this year. He made some good calls and he made some bad calls- that's rugby.
My issues are with the TMO, yet again killing the spectacle and ruining the flow of the game with pointless interruptions. I just hate it so much.
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@samurai-jack said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Folau pulled the man down with his left hand for the yellow. Can’t do that in the lineout (always pinged) and a clear cut yellow (possibly more) in the air. Cheika is a knob
My only comment on that situation is that a one-man lift is really unstable and exacerbated the impact of Folau's contact.
The Irish player was put in a dangerous position by his own lifter- it wasn't a standard contest like Barrett vs Fall last week.
I think it was a penalty, but there were extenuating circumstances that could have made things really nasty through no fault of Folau.
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@derm-mccrum said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
@nepia said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Did anyone else find Ireland's celebrations at the end a bit over the top? They've used up their celebrations if they win the RWC.
You think they should have just shaken hands with each other and walked off the pitch?
Christmas must be a riot in your gaff.... ☺️
I'd allow a high five.
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Eight minutes to go, and you could see how flustered theAussies were.
They should have comfortably won that game, but they have a coach who cant stay calm in the box, an injured captain on the sideline flapping his arms all over the place and Pocock arguing with an AR.
Where is the cool heads from the leadership, directing play and implementing the basics?
They have the scrum, and most of the players they need to win more games, but are a scatterbrained, disorganised, rudderless mess of a team.
Lay the blame for that culture at Chieka’s feet.
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@machpants said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
Jeez Cheika is a clown, every penalty against them whinging in the box
Makes them losing soooooo much sweeter (even though I picked Aus)
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@barbarian He pulled the man down with his left hand. I really hate the aerial contest rulings most of the time especially the French red card last week but the Folau one was clear and obvious. He had an obvious influence on how the guy landed and the impact.
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@barbarian said in Who does the TSF want to Win? Aus vs Ireland:
What did Cheika actually say? Because the quotes I have read are fairly benign. He was asked multiple questions about the officiating, and dead batted tham fairly well, but maybe I've missed something.
FUCKEN HEADLINES SAID HE'S A FUCKEN CLOWN BRO!!!
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@barbarian my comment was because Hooper was on the sidelines doing his best immitation of Cheika when calls went against them. The Wallabies need to learn how to mentally park bad decisions and get on with the game - when Cheika is smashing the desk in the box then he doesn't appear to be the man to teach that.
Pro sports is all about the top two inches. If you get flustered, you generally lose. The Wallabies would do well to try and replicate your "live and let live" attitude out on the paddock.
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@kirwan Sorry but I just can't agree with that analysis.
If we were giving away indisciplined penalties in the last 15, fine. But we weren't.
The Irish defended bloody well and we just needed to be a bit more patient than we were. That's rugby - most of our errors were forced by good Irish play.
I think blaming Cheika for that is a stretch. I get that most of you don't like him, and that's fine. He certainly has his flaws, but I actually think his selection and tactics in this series has been a big improvement on how we've approached similar games in the past.
The man we missed in the late stages was Genia. Halfback is the most underrated position in the game IMO, and we had a 12 year old out there at the most crucial time, and he made some bad errors.
There is plenty of blame to go around, like any loss. Cheika certainly deserves some, but I think in this instance he's lower on the list of people who I would point to.
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That last period of play was damn near perfect until Foley panicked, and thought that was your only chance to score. The reserve props were barrelling over the gain line, and would have been a handful close to the line. Add in Folau consistently getting to the outside shoulder, and an Irish team who were just desperate to hang on, i reckon they were a shout. But he tried a miracle pass, while being tackled, and the winger was covered anyway, a dumb play in the moment from an experienced player.
Fuck, even Rob Simmons consistently got his nose through the line, be patient son!!
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@no-quarter Of course, but I think there actions in the last 15 of each test don't match your statement.
In each test we've closed out the game really well, dominating possession and territory, strong at the set piece. It was bough to win us game 1, and not quite enough in games 2 and 3.
Our discipline is a problem, sure. But we've cut down our 'hot head' penalties, and I'd argue our issues are now more about picking our moments better at ruck time in defence.
If we were giving away a slew of sloppy penalties in the late stages I could get on board for sure. But remember only one team has conceded a backchat penalty in this series, and it wasn't us.
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so will Izzy's card be overturned?
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