NFL 2018
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Cousins and Keenum are in that class of 'middle ground' QBs. They are decent players, and clearly in the top 15-20 QBs in the league. On their day, they are in the top 10.
But the problem is they aren't quite good enough to carry a team deep in the play-offs. They can steer an outstanding team around ala 17/18 Nick Foles and the 15 Broncos-era Peyton, but without that then they struggle.
Throw Mariota in there, Tannehill, Alex Smith. It puts teams in a bind - do they go out and try and draft/pick up a QB who 80-90% of the time is going to be worse than what they have, in the hope of finding that 10% Pat Mahomes guy who IS good enough?
Then you risk becoming the Browns, or the Bears, or the Bills, on this endless cycle of middling QBs.
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@barbarian said in NFL 2018:
Cousins and Keenum are in that class of 'middle ground' QBs. They are decent players, and clearly in the top 15-20 QBs in the league. On their day, they are in the top 10.
But the problem is they aren't quite good enough to carry a team deep in the play-offs. They can steer an outstanding team around ala 17/18 Nick Foles and the 15 Broncos-era Peyton, but without that then they struggle.
Throw Mariota in there, Tannehill, Alex Smith. It puts teams in a bind - do they go out and try and draft/pick up a QB who 80-90% of the time is going to be worse than what they have, in the hope of finding that 10% Pat Mahomes guy who IS good enough?
Then you risk becoming the Browns, or the Bears, or the Bills, on this endless cycle of middling QBs.
Agreed. Best description of Cousins I've ever heard is that 'he takes what the defence will give him'. That's great when the defence is giving up stuff but when it's a top team or there's a clutch moment he can't make something himself.
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@mariner4life are the Steelers fucked now m4l?
3 losses in a row. Does the conference system allow for losing teams to play post season? You know like super rugby does for Australian teams
I'm new to the details in NFL but have gained interest listening to Bill Burr
Yeah.. the Seahawks went into the playoffs as #4 seed and a home playoff game with a 7-9 record.. it was quite recent.. maybe in the last 10 years or so
Funny thing is that they won their home playoff game before losing the next week..I can't remember who they beat in wildcard weekend though
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@mariner4life are the Steelers fucked now m4l?
3 losses in a row. Does the conference system allow for losing teams to play post season? You know like super rugby does for Australian teams
I'm new to the details in NFL but have gained interest listening to Bill Burr
Yeah.. the Seahawks went into the playoffs as #4 seed and a home playoff game with a 7-9 record.. it was quite recent.. maybe in the last 10 years or so
Funny thing is that they won their home playoff game before losing the next week..I can't remember who they beat in wildcard weekend though
Think it was the Saints. That was the game where Beastmode became Beastmode.
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Chargers look like they might get a reality check today. Chiefs had the ball twice in the first quarter, and scored twice.
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@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
Chargers look like they might get a reality check today. Chiefs had the ball twice in the first quarter, and scored twice.
Mahomes is unreal. The passing out of either hand is somethign I have not seen before. The no look pass is something I have not seen before. Remarkable player, worth turning on for.
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@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
Chargers win 29-28 with a 2point conversion on fulltime. Good game to watch
i did not expect that after the first quarter!!
I love it when a gutsy move like that delivers.
Two best teams in the AFC coming out of the same division?
PHIL RIVERS????
Like, WTF has happened in teh NFL. He looked really good today, at 37. Amazing.
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@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
Chargers win 29-28 with a 2point conversion on fulltime. Good game to watch
i did not expect that after the first quarter!!
I love it when a gutsy move like that delivers.
Two best teams in the AFC coming out of the same division?
PHIL RIVERS????
Like, WTF has happened in teh NFL. He looked really good today, at 37. Amazing.
Rivers has always been a good QB i reckon.
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@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
Chargers win 29-28 with a 2point conversion on fulltime. Good game to watch
i did not expect that after the first quarter!!
I love it when a gutsy move like that delivers.
Two best teams in the AFC coming out of the same division?
PHIL RIVERS????
Like, WTF has happened in teh NFL. He looked really good today, at 37. Amazing.
Rivers has always been a good QB i reckon.
yeah, I guess so. He's just so .... meh to me
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@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
@mariner4life said in NFL 2018:
Chargers win 29-28 with a 2point conversion on fulltime. Good game to watch
i did not expect that after the first quarter!!
I love it when a gutsy move like that delivers.
Two best teams in the AFC coming out of the same division?
PHIL RIVERS????
Like, WTF has happened in teh NFL. He looked really good today, at 37. Amazing.
Rivers has always been a good QB i reckon.
yeah, I guess so. He's just so .... meh to me
he plays for the Chargers...
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So if the Chargers get homefield advantage they will be playing their games in a 27,000 capacity stadium?
That team should go back home to San Diego. The Rams are all LA needs.
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interesting weekend. Chiefs and Patriots both lost. Cowboys shut out. Seahawks lost.
Texans slip in to the 2nd seed spot in the AFC.
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49ers beat the Seahawks in overtime which means I think now the Cardinals currently hold the number 1 spot for the NFL Draft.
Been 5 years and 10 games since the 49ers beat the Seahawks - feels good. Mullens has been a find for the 49ers - very handy backup QB.
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Was a crazy final month for the NFL - most of the teams which were firming as Superbowl contenders have gone off the boil apart from the Saints.
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@sneakdefreak said in NFL 2018:
Was a crazy final month for the NFL - most of the teams which were firming as Superbowl contenders have gone off the boil apart from the Saints.
And Thursday NIght (aka Friday afternoon) football has been cracking! Despite planning for being horrifically bad...
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How Free Redskins Tickets Led to the Most Amazing Surprise in NFL History | NFL Films Presents
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The New England Patriots' run of success is less down to their great coach and QB, and more to do with being gifted a trash division of 3 teams who haven't been relevant in decades.
Discuss
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@mariner4life it's a significant part of it. Bill and Tom though, have a body if work that takes some beating. Having six easy games a season helps that, but their road wins, perfect season and sustained success can't be ignored.
Also, when the evil empire shut up shop, who's going to take their place as the reason for all bad things happening? Alabama only gets you so far...
