Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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Why is the media consensus that this was a bit of tape? The only evidence seems to be Bancroft's word, who also said it was a sunglasses pouch?
The pius reaction of the most media and a public has been pretty entertaining. There are some puritans who genuinely want Australia to play their sport in a more civilized fashion and campaign for that win or lose. The majority however subscribe to the traditional sporting psyche of the nation which is play as closer to the edge line than your opposition at all costs and if that means going over it occasionally - fine. Just don't get caught.
The public only ever turn on those who don't get close enough to the line (too soft) or those that get caught too far over it (too dumb/cheat). Basically they want every sportsman to be Steve Waugh, and they all can't be unfortunately - he was pretty special.
I almost feel sorry for the current team because they are just playing a style of cricket which has been handed down to them from their predecessors. It is unfair to pretend that this culture developed under Smith/Warner when Johnson, Ponting, Symonds, Hayden etc went before them.
Look forward to seeing the CA findings.
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@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Steve Waugh has his say - so all of us can shut the fuck up, get back up to our mark, and do the best to knock him over:
FORMER Australian skipper Steve Waugh has taken Steve Smith and Co. to task in a lengthy message directed at the Australian cricket team, accusing the humiliated side of failing the baggy green.
The famed batsman and stoic leader captained the national side to one of its highest points since Don Bradman’s Invincibles in the 1940s.
As legendary as the boy from Panania was with the bat, his expertise at the crease will always be overshadowed by his ferocious leadership and burning desire to win.
Sledging — or, as Waugh described it, “mental disintegration” — never took a back seat under his 57-match leadership between 199 and 2004, a period which saw Australia lose just nine Tests.
But in his 168-match tenure across a glittering 19-year Test career, “Tugga” never had to deal with a controversy so damaging to the image of Australian cricket.
The 52-year-old lambasted his former side after an unfathomable turn of events saw Steve Smith banned by the ICC for overseeing ball tampering in the third Test in Cape Town.
Waugh revealed he’d been messaged by thousands of “heartbroken” fans after the ugly footage in Cape Town was exposed.
“Like many, I’m deeply troubled by the events in Cape Town this last week, and acknowledge the thousands of messages I have received, mostly from heartbroken cricket followers worldwide,” Waugh said on Tuesday.
“The Australian Cricket team has always believed it could win in any situation against any opposition, by playing combative, skilful and fair cricket, driven by our pride in the fabled Baggy Green.
“I have no doubt the current Australian team continues to believe in this mantra, however some have now failed our culture, making a serious error of judgment in the Cape Town Test match.”
Waugh urged Cricket Australia to revisit the Spirit of Cricket document as the national side deals with a complete leadership overhaul.
“In 2003, we modified the Spirit of Cricket document originally created by the M.C.C., to empower our players to set their own standards and commit to play the Australian way,” Waugh said.
“We must urgently revisit this document, rebind our players to it and ensure the spirit in which we play is safeguarded for the future of the sport, and to continue to inspire the dreams of every young kid picking up a bat and ball and for every fan who lives and breathes the game.
“A focused and balanced perspective is needed in the condemnation on those involved in this, with a clear and critical consideration to the social impact and mental health of all players.
“I will support all positive action to ensure an outcome for the betterment of the game, regaining the trust and faith of every fan of cricket.”
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@booboo said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
- Even when I "hated" Warne (the fact all he had to do was ask Daryl Hare "how ... ?" and the finger would be up), Healy (dunno why? whingy voice?), Ponting (because Ponting) I really didn't despise those former players as much as I despise Smith and Warner. Their sneery dumbarse demeanor is unprecedented. The only former player I count in the same boat is Haddin.
Johnson?
It's hard to calculate - there is a common theme for all those players. The formula seems to be something like:
Hatred of an Australian cricketer for NZ fan = (frequency of antics on the field + punchability of face) x runs or wickets scored against NZ.
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Announcement from CA is being made at 0400 Sydney time so everyone can digest it alongside their breakfast.
1800 BST, although the post I read saying that has changed so maybe it was speculation.
This is fun, waiting on the prospect of the blame being pointed back at Davey Dumbdumb.
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“Winning is important, but not at the expense of the game. This is a serious issue. We will complete the process and will be in a position to finalise more sanctions once the investigation is complete.”
Sutherland adds that should be in the next 24 hours.
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@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Was about to put up the same thing @barbarian - even for those annoyed by twitter threads, its an interesting read from a journo who has been around the team for a while.
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Fuuuck this is the gift that keeps on giving. Just read a story on Fox Sports that i swear should be on the Betoota.
David Warner got on the piss with his mates and removed himself from the team Whatsapp group. Teammates have demanded he br removed from the team hotel before there is an "incident".
Awesome
@Virgil just woke up with a massive rage boner
Not at all mate, I’m bitterly disappointed at these events, Warner is up there as one of my... can’t do it! ... nah I’m lovin it!
It’s all come home to roost, your reaping what you have been sewing for years.
( pick any cliche you like )Integrity and Australian cricket team simply don’t belong together in the same sentence, never has never will.
I do genuinely feel for suppprters like @NTA and @barbarian. You guys don’t deserve this, it’s not your fault you were born on the wrong side of the ditch.
Be no different if the All Blacks were caught out doing something, can’t imagine what. Nailing chicks in airport toilets? -
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@donsteppa said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I suppose the cricketing autobiographies over the next few years will become more dramatic...
Bancroft should write his - i think the poor bastard will struggle to get back into the team after this. May as well throw every other bastard under the bus and go play in India
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@nzzp said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@donsteppa said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I suppose the cricketing autobiographies over the next few years will become more dramatic...
Bancroft should write his - i think the poor bastard will struggle to get back into the team after this. May as well throw every other bastard under the bus and go play in India
The way the talk is about Warner never playing for Australia again, you could be talking about him
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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Integrity and Australian cricket team simply don’t belong together in the same sentence, never has never will.
If ball tampering is the marker then integrity doesn't fit many teams in cricket.
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@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Integrity and Australian cricket team simply don’t belong together in the same sentence, never has never will.
If ball tampering is the marker then integrity doesn't fit many teams in cricket.
Think it goes way beyond ball tampering Nick, that’s why the backlash has been so over the top. ( especially back home in Oz)
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@NTA
Just watched AB and Brendan Julian being interviewed on Fox Sports 500.BJ (unfortunate nickname/initials) repeated the many asserions by others that this was a catalyst for a reaction to the loss of respect for the Strayan cricket team.
It's not about ball tampering only.
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