Veitch is done
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@crucial said in Veitch is done:
So he's going to set up his own online sports show? Good luck getting anyone to pay for that.
He does have 200k facebook likes. If you want to reach NZ sports fans, that is a bloody good way to do it. His page is one of the biggest NZ social media pages.
Veitch was very good at what he did. Some of his interviews were excellent and his passion for sport was unmatched. On the other hand, he did sometimes manufacture issues. Obviously the big thing hanging over his head was the violent assault which it never seemed he fully grasped the seriousness of.
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@hydro11 said in Veitch is done:
@crucial said in Veitch is done:
So he's going to set up his own online sports show? Good luck getting anyone to pay for that.
He does have 200k facebook likes. If you want to reach NZ sports fans, that is a bloody good way to do it. His page is one of the biggest NZ social media pages.
Veitch was very good at what he did. Some of his interviews were excellent and his passion for sport was unmatched. On the other hand, he did sometimes manufacture issues. Obviously the big thing hanging over his head was the violent assault which it never seemed he fully grasped the seriousness of.
Half the time he sounded like he wanted to blow his male guests. The fanboy shit was cringeworthy
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The optics of having a broadcaster on-air that everybody knew pig-stomped his partner into a wheelchair, has always been awful. And that he could remain so smug and shit-grinning sure of himself just made him unwatchable. He and his opinions don't deserve my time.
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Ran into him at Lords, he was nearly forcibly dragging around an elderly AB legend, and seemed coked off his tits. But maybe that's just his normal shit-eating self.
Edit:"Good fucking riddance to a piece of human filth", doesn't quite do it justice.
... after reading all the media type people's twitter rejoicing, I felt dirty agreeing with them. So toning this post down a bit. -
@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
He and his opinions don't deserve my time.
Who listened for his opinions? His ability to get high profile, relevant guests on and usually ask a decent slate of questions was why people listened.
I kind of went the other way on Veitch - I think he is a talented broadcaster. His style wasn't always for me - but variety is nice and the first 2-3 hours of the Saturday program leading into a test or the Sunday after was usually decent listening. I might prefer to listen to Devlin, or hate listen to Watson because they might get into things a little deeper or have an interesting take or two - but to be able to produce a mainstream long format show like his isn't something either of them would be capable of.
The domestic violence stuff obviously is the elephant in the room, and his statement this year was ill advised - but if a lot of high profile people who I respect across all areas of sport are happy to appear on his show (I'm not aware of anyone publicly boycotting it as far as I know) then I'm not going to hold myself to some higher moral standard. There is no perfect answer to any of that - I don't know when we can say he has paid his penance - and what platforms he should or shouldn't be given until he has.
I'm not sure Vietch has shown any more/less contrition than most of the ABs who got name suppression throughout the 00's - including one particularly egregious case where he went to play in the RWC that year, then for another 4 years. So who is to say?
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@kruse said in Veitch is done:
Ran into him at Lords, he was nearly forcibly dragging around an elderly AB legend, and seemed coked off his tits. But maybe that's just his normal shit-eating self.
Edit:"Good fucking riddance to a piece of human filth", doesn't quite do it justice.
... after reading all the media type people's twitter rejoicing, I felt dirty agreeing with them. So toning this post down a bit.What's interesting is the rejoicing is related to his workplace behaviour, especially to one or two staff members. It doesn't really have anything to do with his history of domestic violence
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/100077881/sport-journos-respond-to-veitchs-exit
Stuff links dont work for some reason
Sports broadcaster Martin Devlin has slammed his colleagues for celebrating Tony Veitch leaving the NZME network.
Devlin, who has a regular show with the NZME-owned Radio Sport, described their behaviour as "cheap, toady & disappointing".
Numerous sports journalists, including some of Veitch's former colleagues, celebrated on social media on Thursday when the NZME radio network announced Veitch's long-running Newstalk ZB show Veitch on Saturdays would air its last show this weekend.
"I know all these people. And I can only say how cheap, toady & disappointing. So big & brave to fire away now? This only says more about you all than it does the point you're trying to make. I really thought most of you were bigger as people but no," Devlin said.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
"I know all these people. And I can only say how cheap, toady & disappointing. So big & brave to fire away now? This only says more about you all than it does the point you're trying to make. I really thought most of you were bigger as people but no," Devlin said.
Presumably this attitude from Devlin applies to the pile-on for Weinstein and others?
Personally I'm pleased he's gone. I generally chose not to listen to him, and while you can choose to offer him a platform, you can't make people listen. So F U NZME, I voted with my feet.
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I didn't know about this, he really is a class act.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10567257&pnum=0
Two of the letters written by high-profile New Zealanders to support Tony Veitch were changed before being used as character references in court. Squash champion Dame Susan Devoy and Olympic chef de mission Dave Currie wrote glowing testimonials for Veitch - thinking their words would be used to help him get his passport returned by the court, not in sentencing submissions. Neither knew Veitch was planning to plead guilty to injuring ex-partner Kristin Dunne-Powell, and both feel they have been misled. The letters from Dame Susan and Mr Currie were changed before being handed to Judge Jan Doogue as part of the court file. Both said sentences referring to the passport were deleted from their original letters. The changes were discovered after the Weekend Herald searched the court file. "Tony indicated he was looking to get his passport back and needed some support for that," Mr Currie said. "My letter talked about that, it was in the last sentence. I can confirm that has been removed. "There's nothing in the letter that I don't stand by. But it was a little surprising [to see the letter] was in a different context." In her letter, Dame Susan said Veitch deserved a chance to get his life back and have the opportunity to work. But when she wrote the letter on Monday she believed it would be used to support Veitch's application to have his passport returned. "To take those letters of support and use them for a different purpose is, in my opinion, a disgrace," said Dame Susan. "I was happy to write to get his passport back, I thought the trial would be in 2010 or later. It's totally totally different to writing a character reference for someone who's pleaded guilty to beating up their girlfriend. We've been used and manipulated. "I'm just so disappointed and upset. Who could have taken out that sentence, which was the whole point of the letter?" she asked. Former Olympic triathlon champion Hamish Carter told the Weekend Herald he had understood the reference he gave to Veitch was for a job interview and was connected to the broadcaster getting his passport released. He said Veitch asked him this week for a reference. Veitch's lawyer, Stuart Grieve, QC, did not return phone calls. Veitch's spokeswoman, Glenda Hughes, yesterday telephoned all those who wrote support letters for Veitch. None knew Veitch was going to plead guilty, but Ms Hughes said only Mr Currie and Dame Susan had raised concerns. The true reason for the references being requested was kept secret because the sentencing indication the day before Veitch pleaded guilty was totally confidential. "We couldn't tell anyone about this, only that the references would go before the court," Ms Hughes said. She could not say who removed the paragraphs referring to the passport. The letters from Dame Susan and Mr Currie were among nearly 20 handed in defence submissions to Judge Doogue in support of Veitch. Others were written by All Black coach Graham Henry, Hamish Carter and Veitch's former TVNZ colleagues Jim Hickey, Susan Wood and Bernadine Oliver-Kerby. Mr Grieve told the court he had never seen such a collection of "glowing" character references in his career. In the Auckland District Court, Judge Doogue told Veitch: "Numerous references from prominent New Zealanders attesting to your good character is a testament to the fact that this single incident is very much out of character." He was sentenced to 300 hours of community work and nine months' supervision, and fined $10,000. Yesterday, Graham Henry issued a statement in response to domestic violence groups that had denounced his letter in support of Veitch. "I don't condone what happened - it was a terrible act - and I would be concerned if any of my comments were misconstrued. "I provided a character reference for him based on the relationship I had with him professionally and my knowledge of the work he had done with sporting clubs and charities." Henry could not be contacted for comment on whether his letter was written for a passport application or sentencing. Among other letter-writers, NZ Golf chief executive Bill McGowan said Veitch was clear that the letter was going to the judge, and "that was fine by me". Former Australian netball captain Kathryn Harby-Williams, a radio colleague of Veitch, declined to comment, saying: 'It's over as far as I'm concerned." re -
haha Susan Devoy!
I loathe him for what he did and his attitude, I followed his FB page as he got a lot of good info there, plenty who liked his FB page used to stick the boot in at every opportunity in the comments.. I don't think I ever listened to his show.
then there is this, which I agree to an extent
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I'm not a fan of his and can't understand how he gets such great interviewees. I hate his (and Devlin's for that matter) fake over-the-top laugh at his guests' jokes, the sycophantic questions or the massive preamble distancing himself from a point of view before asking a 'tough question'.
That said, the list of his co workers celebrating his exit is weird, particularly that Heveldt guy... who I only know because he appeared with Veitch on the NZHerald videos. All these people who have kept their mouth shut but now that it's not controversial or unsafe career wise, they pile on.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
I think @MN5 s dream might finally come true , Veitch and Jay Jay doing a show together . You know it makes sense.
Make it a tv panel show with Hilary Barry and John Campbell and special guests Polly Gillespie and Ursula Carlson.
Then I will go postal.
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@mn5 said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
I think @MN5 s dream might finally come true , Veitch and Jay Jay doing a show together . You know it makes sense.
Make it a tv panel show with Hilary Barry and John Campbell and special guests Polly Gillespie and Ursula Carlson.
Then I will go postal.
Heres your new screensaver.
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@taniwharugby said in Veitch is done:
haha Susan Devoy!
I loathe him for what he did and his attitude, I followed his FB page as he got a lot of good info there, plenty who liked his FB page used to stick the boot in at every opportunity in the comments.. I don't think I ever listened to his show.
then there is this, which I agree to an extent
Yep. 200k 'likes' but at least half of these were just there to hurl abuse. The admin must have been kept fucken busy deleting all the nasty comments he got.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
@mn5 said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
I think @MN5 s dream might finally come true , Veitch and Jay Jay doing a show together . You know it makes sense.
Make it a tv panel show with Hilary Barry and John Campbell and special guests Polly Gillespie and Ursula Carlson.
Then I will go postal.
Heres your new screensaver.
@jegga that post is pure evil.
Xmas is coming up and to remotely enjoy it I now have to try everything in my power to expunge those pics from my memory.
In fact those pictures are enough to put a halt to @Mokey s career writing lesbo porn books (sorry, romance novels)
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Thankfully living in Oz I haven't had to be subjected to Veitch - except for TR frequently updating us with stuff from his FB page.
I'm unsurprised his colleagues put the boot into him. I think I've told the story of how I spent some time in his company in Queenstown (Winterfest I think) the early 2000s as my radio mates were colleagues of his, and he was pretty much universally loathed by them all back then. He was just a gobshite the entire time as well.
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