Black Caps vs Windies Series
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
The 'have to play a spinner no matter what' philosophy hurts Neesham and Anderson's chances.
no more so than Neesham and Anderson's performances.
We seem these days to be stuck in this perpetual limbo where we are good enough to towel up the lower sides, but we're nowhere near good enough to beat the top sides. So a guy like CdG has a test like this, and we are still looking at him as not good enough, because we know if we're playing Aus, Warner is going to put his dribbly mediums in to the crowd, and Starc or Hazlewood are going to knock him over in singe figures.
Harsh reality is that, if you're picking a joint Aus-NZ team, that probably only Kane and Rossco are going to make it. Latham might sneak in to open, BJ might keep, and Boult might edge Cummins, but in actuality probably not. So we're looking at many of our best players trying to edge out their worst.
But then we've always got three or four who are marginal as test players - guys who can perform OK against weak test teams, but they're not up to playing the best teams except occasionally fluking a performance.
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@chris-b said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
The 'have to play a spinner no matter what' philosophy hurts Neesham and Anderson's chances.
no more so than Neesham and Anderson's performances.
We seem these days to be stuck in this perpetual limbo where we are good enough to towel up the lower sides, but we're nowhere near good enough to beat the top sides. So a guy like CdG has a test like this, and we are still looking at him as not good enough, because we know if we're playing Aus, Warner is going to put his dribbly mediums in to the crowd, and Starc or Hazlewood are going to knock him over in singe figures.
Harsh reality is that, if you're picking a joint Aus-NZ team, that probably only Kane and Rossco are going to make it. Latham might sneak in to open, BJ might keep, and Boult might edge Cummins, but in actuality probably not. So we're looking at many of our best players trying to edge out their worst.
But then we've always got three or four who are marginal as test players - guys who can perform OK against weak test teams, but they're not up to playing the best teams except occasionally fluking a performance.
Calling that a harsh reality reflects on either the decline of the Australians or the improvement of the black caps because 10 years ago I don't think any black caps would have made it.
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@cyclops said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@chris-b said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
The 'have to play a spinner no matter what' philosophy hurts Neesham and Anderson's chances.
no more so than Neesham and Anderson's performances.
We seem these days to be stuck in this perpetual limbo where we are good enough to towel up the lower sides, but we're nowhere near good enough to beat the top sides. So a guy like CdG has a test like this, and we are still looking at him as not good enough, because we know if we're playing Aus, Warner is going to put his dribbly mediums in to the crowd, and Starc or Hazlewood are going to knock him over in singe figures.
Harsh reality is that, if you're picking a joint Aus-NZ team, that probably only Kane and Rossco are going to make it. Latham might sneak in to open, BJ might keep, and Boult might edge Cummins, but in actuality probably not. So we're looking at many of our best players trying to edge out their worst.
But then we've always got three or four who are marginal as test players - guys who can perform OK against weak test teams, but they're not up to playing the best teams except occasionally fluking a performance.
Calling that a harsh reality reflects on either the decline of the Australians or the improvement of the black caps because 10 years ago I don't think any black caps would have made it.
Vettori would have once Warnie was retired. Also depending on injuries Bond was better than any of their pacemen barring McGrath.
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@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@cyclops said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@chris-b said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
The 'have to play a spinner no matter what' philosophy hurts Neesham and Anderson's chances.
no more so than Neesham and Anderson's performances.
We seem these days to be stuck in this perpetual limbo where we are good enough to towel up the lower sides, but we're nowhere near good enough to beat the top sides. So a guy like CdG has a test like this, and we are still looking at him as not good enough, because we know if we're playing Aus, Warner is going to put his dribbly mediums in to the crowd, and Starc or Hazlewood are going to knock him over in singe figures.
Harsh reality is that, if you're picking a joint Aus-NZ team, that probably only Kane and Rossco are going to make it. Latham might sneak in to open, BJ might keep, and Boult might edge Cummins, but in actuality probably not. So we're looking at many of our best players trying to edge out their worst.
But then we've always got three or four who are marginal as test players - guys who can perform OK against weak test teams, but they're not up to playing the best teams except occasionally fluking a performance.
Calling that a harsh reality reflects on either the decline of the Australians or the improvement of the black caps because 10 years ago I don't think any black caps would have made it.
Vettori would have once Warnie was retired. Also depending on injuries Bond was better than any of their pacemen barring McGrath.
Dare I say it... Cairns?
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@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@cyclops said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@chris-b said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
The 'have to play a spinner no matter what' philosophy hurts Neesham and Anderson's chances.
no more so than Neesham and Anderson's performances.
We seem these days to be stuck in this perpetual limbo where we are good enough to towel up the lower sides, but we're nowhere near good enough to beat the top sides. So a guy like CdG has a test like this, and we are still looking at him as not good enough, because we know if we're playing Aus, Warner is going to put his dribbly mediums in to the crowd, and Starc or Hazlewood are going to knock him over in singe figures.
Harsh reality is that, if you're picking a joint Aus-NZ team, that probably only Kane and Rossco are going to make it. Latham might sneak in to open, BJ might keep, and Boult might edge Cummins, but in actuality probably not. So we're looking at many of our best players trying to edge out their worst.
But then we've always got three or four who are marginal as test players - guys who can perform OK against weak test teams, but they're not up to playing the best teams except occasionally fluking a performance.
Calling that a harsh reality reflects on either the decline of the Australians or the improvement of the black caps because 10 years ago I don't think any black caps would have made it.
Vettori would have once Warnie was retired. Also depending on injuries Bond was better than any of their pacemen barring McGrath.
Dare I say it... Cairns?
Retired in 2004 but woulda been in with a shot
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@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
And to think they want to move tests to 4 days of 105 overs. If they can’t get through 90 overs how the fuck will they bowl 105?
The rules around rates will be much tougher. They will find a way to magically speed up.
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@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
And to think they want to move tests to 4 days of 105 overs. If they can’t get through 90 overs how the fuck will they bowl 105?
The rules around rates will be much tougher. They will find a way to magically speed up.
Good. They p1ss around so much. Start earlier, get through overs quicker, 4 day tests. Viewers would magically come back.
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@tewaio said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
And to think they want to move tests to 4 days of 105 overs. If they can’t get through 90 overs how the fuck will they bowl 105?
The rules around rates will be much tougher. They will find a way to magically speed up.
Good. They p1ss around so much. Start earlier, get through overs quicker, 4 day tests. Viewers would magically come back.
Knowing day four is technically day five may take a bit of adjusting to.
What next? Four stumps to bowl at ?
RIP Marty Crowe
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I can't drink for more than 3 days at the cricket before i'm a write-off anyway.
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@tewaio said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
And to think they want to move tests to 4 days of 105 overs. If they can’t get through 90 overs how the fuck will they bowl 105?
The rules around rates will be much tougher. They will find a way to magically speed up.
Good. They p1ss around so much. Start earlier, get through overs quicker, 4 day tests. Viewers would magically come back.
I dunno.. Quite used to seeing the Black Caps lose tests within 4 days, so I don't think viewers would come back for that..
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@mimic said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@tewaio said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
And to think they want to move tests to 4 days of 105 overs. If they can’t get through 90 overs how the fuck will they bowl 105?
The rules around rates will be much tougher. They will find a way to magically speed up.
Good. They p1ss around so much. Start earlier, get through overs quicker, 4 day tests. Viewers would magically come back.
I dunno.. Quite used to seeing the Black Caps lose tests within 4 days, so I don't think viewers would come back for that..
Pffft. What a hater. Sounds like someone missed our triumphant victory within four days over the mighty West Indies.
This post would have had a lot more resonance 30 years ago.
