Exodus 2018
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@sammyc said in Exodus 2018:
@mariner4life said in Exodus 2018:
well well, the Crusaders win one (forgettable) title in a decade, and out come the Crusaders fans, like cockroaches after you turn the lights out. Sad.
Seriously? one small dig at nepia and you ride in like a knight in shining armour to reprimand everyone involved like a primary school headmaster.
I’ve hardly commented on the crusaders since we won the title. I was a shitload more vocal when we were losing.
What’s really sad is the constant wanking over Ngatai for the past 2 seasons that he’s hardly played.
I think his legend will grow even more now he's gone.
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@mn5 wondered how long before you commented on this...
I actually feel in this instance given the help and loyalty shown by NZR he should have given a bit more back to super rugby and a decent tilt at the ABs, that said, I know he is only a knock away from no more rugby, or worse so understand from that perspective.
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@taniwharugby said in Exodus 2018:
@mn5 wondered how long before you commented on this...
I actually feel in this instance given the help and loyalty shown by NZR he should have given a bit more back to super rugby and a decent tilt at the ABs, that said, I know he is only a knock away from no more rugby, or worse so understand from that perspective.
I've had a fair bit on today. Not much fern time. Sorry about that. I'll always find time in a busy schedule to have a whinge about him though.
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He's played 8 years of Super rugby (even taking into account time away due to injury) and won everything there is to win. Cash in now.
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@mariner4life said in Exodus 2018:
As long as Charlie boy can say that statement in Francais he'll be tres bien.
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@kiwimurph said in Exodus 2018:
gets popcorn ready for Crusaders v Chiefs on 24 February
I was going to say that it's a bit ominous for the Chiefs that no-one has ever written a song about someone named Colin. But, it's not true....
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@stargazer said in Exodus 2018:
@tim I wish I could upvote that more than once!
It would be great if they let the JABs play the Pacific Nations Cup again; although the PNC now serves as a double for RWC qualfication. Or other credible opponents; I much more prefer the JABs as an AB development tool than the Maori ABs (and the Barbarians). If South Africa 'A', England 'A', Emerging Italy, Argentina XV etc etc can have games each year, then why not the JABs? Letting them regularly play the PI teams and the forementioned 'A' teams can only be good, can't it? I assume it doesn't happen for financial reasons? There's no reason why they can't have regular training sessions with the ABs, if separating fringe ABs from the first choice squad is a concern.
Agree completely. Ireland have Wolfhounds (capped) and Emerging Ireland. Hey the fuck don’t NZ have a second team that caps players? Make it mandatory to play for them before you get senior cap.
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@pot-hale The Junior ABs are our official second team that can cap players, but they haven't used them for years.
Instead, they're using the Maori ABs for Maori players and the NZ Barbarians for players of all backgrounds, both of which are no official national teams. There's only one reason why I can agree to this practice and that is that if they trial players who prove not to be AB material, these players can still play for another country if eligible. But there's a large group of fringe ABs who are already capped and only have a chance of making the ABs again in case of (many) injuries, and they should definitely have a chance to play in an official team and the Maori ABs simply exclude too many of those players due to not be Maori.
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@stargazer the Nz 7’s are the 2nd team now that can mean players can’t play for another country except that loophole for 7’s during Olympics
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@family-man which is kinda daft, given how few seem to come through that path now compared to 10-15 years ago, 7's could almost now be considered a separate sport for eligbility.
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@family-man That's incorrect. There's a senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team, the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team and the senior National Representative Sevens Team of the Union of the country.
So there are three official teams. Obviously, our senior XVs team is the All Blacks, the "next" senior XVs team are the Junior All Blacks and then there are the All Blacks 7s.
https://www.worldrugby.org/handbook/regulations/reg-8/reg-8
http://www.allblacks.com/Teams/Junior
It is correct, however, that playing for the AB7s can block a player from playing for a different country in XVs (depending on age).
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@stargazer there is no junior all blacks though which makes the 7’s as the other team
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@family-man The JABs still exist as a team. Look at the link to their page. They're just not used at the moment. NZR could decide to change that whenever they want.
For official purposes this team is not considered defunct, any future information regarding the Junior All Blacks will be revealed on allblacks.com
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@stargazer that is my point though they are not used and have not been used for quite some time and don’t look like they will be used
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@family-man They are not "defunct", so are still the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team.