Mitre 10 Cup 2018
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@muddyriver said in Mitre 10 Cup 2018:
I think the blues have done very poorly on player development and guys like nock just have not played enough rugby. He should have 2 solid club seasons under his belt as often he was not in the 23.
He was given a reasonable amount of game time in 2016 but that dried up in 2017. It's like the coaches lost faith in him but he stayed on the roster. Either find a way to cut him, or keep investing in him.. they did neither.
So now in 2018 there's an injury at halfback and the coaches had to turn to a player that was stagnatingThen you add in silliness like swapping the starting halfback during the warmup (the only explanation the fans have had for that was 'Tana had a change of heart' in the nzherald)
I have sympathy for a guy like Nock because he has not been managed well at all. Then you add in the fact that the Blues patterns seem off (exit plans, attacking structure). Even simple plays look tortured.. how much blame should a guy like Nock have when everything is dysfunctional?
@muddyriver said in Mitre 10 Cup 2018:
The blues are just terrible at development. Whether it's leadership coaching culture whatever players just don't grow there.
Redman said the players are 'growing'. The team is making progress and we can't make drastic changes as that would throw out the progress.
I think you are right and Redman is wrong.
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@chiefy07 yes some big losses. But we have Super players Tamiti Tua, Macali, Hyland still there and the new signing Regan Verney. And some great young talent in mix ( both Hohaia and Gregory ) and in trial squads ( Shelford, Te Nana ....) We will need a few of them to stand up.
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has been confirmed Rene Ranger has re-signed with Northland.
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Assume like the other unions, many backing up from Saturday and likely need to back up for club again next Saturday....Old Boys Marist were pretty beat up at the end of their game v Kamo on Saturday, so a few of their boys will be nowhere near 100%.
NZ Vikings Team to start vs North Harbour
- Tom Stevens
- Cambell Matthews
- Paddy Joe Atkins
- Lucas Albornoz
- Shane Neville
- James Carlton
- Jarod Byrnes
- Nela Manu
- Emil Pittman
- Wiseguy Faiane
- Tavite Gadeisuva
- Lyric Brownlee
- Dan Wells
- Dougie Te Puni
- Noah Cooper
NZ Vikings Team to start vs Auckland (@ halftime)
- Isileli Tuungafasii
- Jordan Olsen
- Boyd Wiggins
- Francois Marais -
- Tom Robinson
- Sam McNamara
- Kane Jacobson
- Jaycob Matiu
- Mac Sykes
- Myles Thoroughgood
- Waylen Skipps
- Mitchell Miller
- Rene Ranger
- Renata Roberts-Tenana
- Matty Wright
Reserves
1.Dan Koroi
2.Temo Mayanavanua
3.Jono Kitto
4.Tim Blundell -
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@taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup 2018:
Reserves
1.Dan Koroi
2.Temo Mayanavanua
3.Jono Kitto
4.Tim BlundellIs that No 1. Taniela Koroi that turns out for Tawa from time to time down here in Wellington? Think he may also have suited up a few time for the Flying Fijians.
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@higgins no idea, many of the names are unfamiliar to me, but in theory he would be playing club footy up here to be available.
@Steven-Harris might know though.
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@taniwharugby yep from Wellington.
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@taniwharugby Confirms Macalai is out. We look short on size, experience and pace in back 3. Options? Hyland, how is Matt Wright playing - he wasn’t his best last year, plus...Debreceny is an option I guess
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@kev yep certainly light at the back.
Matt Wright will need to be much better than last year, Hyland will def be there, I think with the recent signings indicates Debreceny is likely to slot in at the back, my preference is for Ranger to play wing rather than mid-field given we have Tua-Hohaia-Verney, and possibly some use of Goodhue
Fromt here we start looking at youngsters like Murray, Te-Nana to name a couple.
If he can stay fit, I'm picking big things from Hohaia this season.
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@kev said in Mitre 10 Cup 2018:
We look short on size, experience and pace in back 3. Options? Hyland, how is Matt Wright playing - he wasn’t his best last year, plus...Debreceny is an option I guess
Scott Gregory should be an option? Particularly if Matt Wright doesn't find his old form. Midfield is congested and he seems to be playing more in the back three recently (NZ u20's, Blues dev etc)
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@taniwharugby Forgot about Ranger. Lots of young guys and will be interested in how Gregory looks at this level. Like Te Nana, Murray, others...all young. Looking for those that back up attack with good defence.
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updated squad with the addition of 5 more local players
The countdown begins when Northland kick-off against North Harbour on Thursday 16th August in Albany.
Congratulations to Temo Mayanavanua, Renata Roberts-Te Nana, Tim Blundell, Paddy-Joe Atkins and Noah Cooper who have recently signed for the Northland Taniwha team.
2018 Northland Taniwha Mitre 10 Cup Squad to date:
HOOKERS
Jordan Olsen
Club: Mid Northern
Northland Caps: 27Matt Moulds
Club: Otamatea
Northland Caps: 45Ross Wright
Club: Wellsford
Northland Caps: 82PROPS
Ropate Rinakama
Club: Waipu
Northland Caps: 10Jack Straker
Club: Kamo
Northland Caps: 0Isileli Tu’ungafasi
Club: Mid Northern
Northland Caps: 0Paddy-Joe Atkins
Club: Wellsford
Northland Caps: 0Boyd Wiggans
Club: Old Boys Marist
Northland Caps: 0LOCK
Joshua Goodhue
Club: Kamo
Northland Caps: 22Murray Douglas
Club: Awanui
Northland Caps: 10Temo Mayanavanua
Club: Waipu
Northland Caps: 0Tom Robinson
Club: Western Sharks
Northland Caps: 5LOOSE FORWARD
Matt Matich
Club: Western Sharks
Northland Caps: 19Kara Pryor
Club: Hora Hora
Northland Caps: 38Kane Jacobson
Club: Kamo
Northland Caps: 0Jaycob Matiu
Club: Hora Hora
Northland Caps: 17Sam McNamara
Club: Waipu
Northland Caps: 0HALFBACK
Sam Nock
Club: Kerikeri
Northland Caps: 27Jono Kitto
Club: Hikurangi
Northland Caps: 0Mac Sykes
Club: Kamo
Northland Caps: 8FIRST FIVE EIGHTH
Jack Debreczeni
Club: Rebels
Northland Caps: 0Myles Thoroughgood
Club: Kamo
Northland Caps: 0Tim Blundell
Club: Wellsford
Northland Caps: 3MIDFIELD
Jack Goodhue
Club: United Kawakawa
Northland Caps: 9Scott Gregory
Club: Hikurangi
Northland Caps: 0Blake Hohaia
Club: Kamo
Northland Caps: 5Tamati Tua
Club: Hikurangi
Northland Caps: 16Regan Verney
Club: Chiefs
Northland Caps: 0UTILITY
Jordan Hyland
Club: Wellsford
Northland Caps: 29Rene Ranger
Club: Wellsford
Northland Caps: 76WING
Jone Macilai
Club: Awanui
Northland Caps: 36Renata Roberts-Te Nana
Club: Old Boys Marist
Northland Caps: 0FULLBACK
Matt Wright
Club: Wellsford
Northland Caps: 38OUTSIDE BACK
Noah Cooper
Club: Kerikeri
Northland Caps: 0 -
Congratulations to all the players that have made the cut,
Interesting selections,I guess the most interesting non selections given they both have Mitre10 Cup experience are Wiseguy Fianne and Dan Koroi,hopefully both will hang around with the Dev squad as there are sure to be injuries..I sense the budget or lack of it has played a part in the most recent selections which is not a bad thing as its good to see so many local guys come through..
The loss Jone Macilai is gonna hurt,even more so with Solomon Alaimalo no longer at the Taniwha..so we really need Matt Wright to step up,looks like Noah Cooper will be covering fullback as well,quite happy with the way Hyland has developed over the last 2 x seasons,so I guess he will take the right wing,
The left wing I am thinking we can give Renata Roberts or Noah Cooper a crack,there’s also the option of Ranger,Midfield I am thinking Ranger/Goodhue or Ranger/Hohaia
Debreczeni at first five,interestingly he was originally named as a fullback,but I see he is now listed at first five.
Halfback Nock/Kitto
Forwards...?
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