Dirtiest Rugby XV
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@sammyc said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@frye said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@salacious-crumb said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@rembrandt said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
Wow that Botha headbut really was something wasn't it. Did he get a card? memory says nope for some reason.
Not even a penalty. Cited. Received a nine week suspension.
(I believe Meg was saying some disparaging comment about Bakkies dirty reputation during Saturday's test commentary.)
Nesbit mentioned the 55-35 test in 1997 where a Bok got sent off (Venter). Marshall incomprehensibly suggests it was Bakkies. Botha played in the era after Marshall, how does he not know this?
Prety sure that Marshall and Bakkies would have played each other a few times in the early 2000's
Bakkies test debut was 2002 so if Nesbit was referring to 1997 think Marshall may have it all worng
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@hooroo said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@sammyc said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@frye said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@salacious-crumb said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@rembrandt said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
Wow that Botha headbut really was something wasn't it. Did he get a card? memory says nope for some reason.
Not even a penalty. Cited. Received a nine week suspension.
(I believe Meg was saying some disparaging comment about Bakkies dirty reputation during Saturday's test commentary.)
Nesbit mentioned the 55-35 test in 1997 where a Bok got sent off (Venter). Marshall incomprehensibly suggests it was Bakkies. Botha played in the era after Marshall, how does he not know this?
Prety sure that Marshall and Bakkies would have played each other a few times in the early 2000's
Bakkies test debut was 2002 so if Nesbit was referring to 1997 think Marshall may have it all worng
No shit, Nesbit said he was wrong in the commentary.
I was replying to this
Botha played in the era after Marshall, how does he not know this?
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What's the team? I'm not watching the vid.
My effort (albeit with Butch and Bakkies already mentioned above to trigger my memory) .
Test players only. Recentish years, the age of the TV camera.
It appears that the French gougers don't appear to get individually named, so this is quite harder than expected.
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10 B James
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6 T Flavell
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4 B Botha
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I think Mark Shaw should be in the team somewhere
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@wally said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
My brother used to work with an Aussie international in Sydney. He used to maintain that Andy Earl was the dirtiest player he’d played against. Then one Monday morning he came into the office after playing the Boks on the Saturday. He just said 2 words. “Uli Schmidt”.
Andy Earl?
I went to school with Andy, so if that's as dirty as it gets maybe I could have been an All Black after all!
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That guy who bit Fitzy's ear. I see the video gets Duncan McRae - his assault on O'Gara is about the worst I can recall in recent times.
I think if you went a bit further back, you'd find some guys who had pretty dark reputations. Grizz Wyllie for one.
Add in Loe and Andy Earl - maybe you could just pick a team of those Glenmark bastards!
Graeme Higginson played there for a while, I think.
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There's probably other flankers who were dirtier across their whole career but Corne Krige deserves a mention for amassing the most runs in a match
vs England 2002
I can't find the old uk sky video "5 seconds of madness" but in that sequence he:
- Half hit Dawson with a swinging arm and accidentally gave team mate Pretorious a black eye
- Put a knee into Dallaglio's back
- Stomped on Vickery
Also in the same match he elbowed Robinson, punched Wilkinson a couple of times in the head, missed a punch on Dallaglio and he hit Dawson again.
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@sammyc said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@frye said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@salacious-crumb said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
@rembrandt said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
Wow that Botha headbut really was something wasn't it. Did he get a card? memory says nope for some reason.
Not even a penalty. Cited. Received a nine week suspension.
(I believe Meg was saying some disparaging comment about Bakkies dirty reputation during Saturday's test commentary.)
Nesbit mentioned the 55-35 test in 1997 where a Bok got sent off (Venter). Marshall incomprehensibly suggests it was Bakkies. Botha played in the era after Marshall, how does he not know this?
Prety sure that Marshall and Bakkies would have played each other a few times in the early 2000's
Oh ffs yes their careers overlapped but Botha's career was predominately post Marshalls.
Marshall is still dumb af for thinking Botha was involved in that 1997 game.
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Eric Champ for sure.
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I think Gerard Cholley should be in the list together with Jean-François Imbernon and Michel Palmie. The French bunch of 1977 was a terrifying outfit.
Jean-Pierre Garuet was more discret but vicious. He has admitted that he had voluntarily jumped on Campbell's knee during the 1987 WC semi final against Australia. This action ended Campbell's rugby career. -
Moaner van Heerden was a notorious kicker of players on the ground. He booted Peter Whiting in the head in 1976. I heard Whiting refer to him as a “psychopathic prison guard”.
Steve Finnane was Australian heavyweight boxing champion and was mostly in the Aussie team for his punching. Became a barrister 😄. -
@wally said in Dirtiest Rugby XV:
Moaner van Heerden was a notorious kicker of players on the ground. He booted Peter Whiting in the head in 1976. I heard Whiting refer to him as a “psychopathic prison guard”.
Steve Finnane was Australian heavyweight boxing champion and was mostly in the Aussie team for his punching. Became a barrister 😄.Many years ago I read in the Rugby News, when it was a weekly, that MVH had tried his usual tricks against Rhodesia. Unfortunately for him their LH was in the SAS. MVH was taken off motionless on a stretcher.
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