Blues 2018
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@kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:
@tim said in Blues 2018:
@stargazer Lowe scored a nice intercept early in the second half and looked sharp.
Moron Hamish Bidwell recently bagged him in a preseason report. From his track record that means he'll have a great season.
Fuck that Bidwell is a tosser.
Bidwell, how is he even a sports reporter? He should stick to the classifieds.
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@northlandallday dalton popoaliāi out for 6 weeks
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Tana isn't going to be sacked unless the Blues have an absolute shocking season. His big offseason signing (Otere Black) is out for the year and now they have even more injuries.
As long as the Blues are there or thereabouts in playoff contention (as they have been the last two seasons) he will be safe.
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@duluth said in Blues 2018:
Thats probably right. I did say 'should'
If after three years you can't make the top 8 of a 15 team comp he should be sacked.
But he probably wouldn't be held accountable
I see your point but I think that's a bit misleading. If the Blues were in the Aussie conference they would have won it the last two years.
While there are now 5 'wildcard' playoff spots available - the NZ derbies this year have increased from 6 to 8 so 4th place in the NZ conference may not be good enough for a playoff spot like it has been the last two years.
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hasn't he recently extended his contract?
@KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.
That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:
hasn't he recently extended his contract?
There was an articles a few weeks ago saying they should announce an extension now. Probably written by a reporter who used to say 'judge him after three seasons'
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:
hasn't he recently extended his contract?
@KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.
That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.
My point is that saying they cant make an 8 team playoffs in a 15 team comp is misleading as all 15 teams dont exactly have an even chance of making the playoffs.
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@kiwimurph pretty much a 5 team comp to make the finals.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:
hasn't he recently extended his contract?
@KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.
That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.
I think the player resources thing is a bit overdone. The Blues have had the poorest squad in NZ for a number of years now. Yes, there are lots of player in the Auckland region due to numbers, but there is more talent in other franchises and has been for a while now.
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@nepia at what age? Player numbers in Auckland, NH, Northland and probably include Counties to a point as well, are huge...but at some point something goes wrong ,although I don't think this is directly linked to the issues for Auckland Rugby (League & Union)
League seems to do so much better with recruiting 'kids' than rugby (Warriors aside...) was talking to a lady at work, her 17yr old son has played rugby with a kid right through to form 5 (Year 11?) but last year his mate picked up a contract/scholarship with an Aussie league team, when he visited over Xmas, she said he was huge, bulked up massively...which obviously is a concern in itself for a 17/18 year old...
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@nepia said in Blues 2018:
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:
hasn't he recently extended his contract?
@KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.
That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.
I think the player resources thing is a bit overdone. The Blues have had the poorest squad in NZ for a number of years now. Yes, there are lots of player in the Auckland region due to numbers, but there is more talent in other franchises and has been for a while now.
I agree. Although quite a bit of that talent at other franchises comes from the Auckland region too.
It depends on position too - the Blues/Auckland region produce a heap of quality outside backs - first fives not so much - the Canterbury region is the opposite.
What will be interesting is how successful the Blues region is at keeping the current young crop of talent that has come through the successful Auckland U19 team from last year (Clarke, Plummer, Sotutu, Telea, Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa etc).
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@taniwharugby The age thing is kind of my point, yes there must be lots of young talent floating around Auckland but it doesn't come through to senior level, so hard to point that particular finger at the current (whoever it is) coach of the Blues.
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@nepia said in Blues 2018:
@taniwharugby The age thing is kind of my point, yes there must be lots of young talent floating around Auckland but it doesn't come through to senior level, so hard to point that particular finger at the current (whoever it is) coach of the Blues.
It comes through at senior level, but not at the Blues.
Saw a stat that something like a third of all NPC players had been through the Auckland system. They just don't wind up playing for Auckland or the Blues.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11997652
Josh Goodhue is another putting pressure on the selectors, something Tuipulotu acknowledges.
"It wasn't tough because I know them personally and they deserve that spot. It wouldn't be fair to be negative towards them because they earned it. Even now coming in, Josh Goodie [Goodhue] has earned the spot.