Blues v Force
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Yup lots of silly comments there about facial expressions or saying that the forwards were shot at 60m (he subbed on at 53 and was a large part of the comeback after 60mins)
Carrying more than any Crusader forward and more than any forward not called Kaino is not a bad effort (in just 27mins) But did you see his expression
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@Duluth said in Blues v Force:
Yup lots of silly comments there about facial expressions or saying that the forwards were shot at 60m (he subbed on at 53 and was a large part of the comeback after 60mins)
Carrying more than any Crusader forward and more than any forward not called Kaino is not a bad effort. But did you see his expression :lol:
He carried the ball 4 times in 27 minutes? that's not as impressive as you are making out
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@Duluth said in Blues v Force:
Yup lots of silly comments there about facial expressions or saying that the forwards were shot at 60m (he subbed on at 53 and was a large part of the comeback after 60mins)
Also, what comeback? did the blues score again after Francis missed the penalty around 60minutes?
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@Duluth said in Blues v Force:
5 carries for 34m
Tafua for instance 4 carries for 3m and he started
He has a silly expression on his face too
Taufua was excellent in that game, shows how stupid it is to judge a players performance on the basis of ball carries alone.
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Speaking of Ioanes, it annoys me that the media gets lazy - as soon as anyone plays from the bench such as Rieko they are 'dropped' or 'dumped'.
Listening to Tana it's quite clear he's giving Rieko a bit of a spell after playing every minute/game so far and they can't pick everyone to play every week, they only have so many backline spots.
Saying Rieko has been 'dropped' is wrong. Just because he isn't scoring 3 tries a game doesn't mean he hasn't been playing well - he has been really strong at centre and last week made breaks once Faiane came on and he was able to get some ball in space (heavily involved in two final Blues tries).
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@KiwiMurph Yes, I noticed that, too. All for the clicks, obviously, because 'being dropped' sounds so much more dramatic than 'getting a rest'. That's why I usually prefer to read the media releases with the team naming (if available), rather than articles on the NZH or Stuff website.
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@SammyC Clearly all his fault then.
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@antipodean said in Blues v Force:
@SammyC Clearly all his fault then.
Never said nor implied that
You guys love to put words in peoples mouth, I was responding to a specific comment that said he was a "large part of the blues comeback"
Clearly there was no comeback
Hard to take someone seriously when their memory of the game is so wrong.
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Instead of squabbling over whether the Blues made a comeback or whether Akira played a big part in the comeback can't we all just agree it was the best Blues/Crusaders game since 2005?
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I've said there was no comeback
He gets through a lot of work for a lazy guy. To carry so many metres in a beaten pack was a good effort
I thought it was worth comparing lazy Ioane with the highly praised Tufua
Note that Ioane has played a lot less minutes:
If you change the comparison to Douglas the stats even up on defence but they are comparable
It's strange that in the Crusaders game when the entire Blues tight five stunk it up in the second half and the maul defence was incredibly disorganised, the player getting the most blame is a loosie that subbed on
Now I'm not even saying that Akira should start, as I said earlier he has been flat since midway through the 2016 NPC. However calling him lazy is overstating things, or else there are a lot of lazy players around. He's just been less effective since recently. The 'lazy' criticism has followed him around even when he was at his peak and on top of almost every metric
It's almost like some people don't like the look on his face
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@SammyC said in Blues v Force:
@antipodean said in Blues v Force:
@SammyC Clearly all his fault then.
You guys love to put words in peoples mouth,
That should be the TSF tagline.
The Silver Fern
We will put words in your mouth, and then argue all day that you are wrongSure, it's not catchy, but it's accurate!
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@Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Force:
Instead of squabbling over whether the Blues made a comeback or whether Akira played a big part in the comeback can't we all just agree it was the best Blues/Crusaders game since 2005?
Any game we smash the Blues up front is awesome.
I suppose that applies to pretty much every game since 2005 though.
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I do think a bit more time on Akira is needed this season before he'll get fully up and running - his season has been a bit disjointed thus far, game 1 was fine, game 2 he got pulled at halftime after Luatua got red carded and then he's had a couple of cameos off the bench since. Let's give it a few more rounds and re-assess.
On another note - some of the Taufua love on here is a bit outrageous - he has a good motor I agree but he tends to stand out against weaker opposition - I didn't think he was that good against the Blues even despite the fact the Crusaders had 7 current ABs in their tight 5 (5 starting, 2 off the bench) and the Blues were without Faumuina that day. He throws himself about well but his size holds him back from making a bigger impact in the derbies (as say compared to a Squire).
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@Duluth said in Blues v Force:
I've said there was no comeback
He gets through a lot of work for a lazy guy. To carry so many metres in a beaten pack was a good effort
I thought it was worth comparing lazy Ioane with the highly praised Tufua
Note that Ioane has played a lot less minutes:If you change the comparison to Douglas the stats even up on defence but they are comparable
It's strange that in the Crusaders game when the entire Blues tight five stunk it up in the second half and the maul defence was incredibly disorganised, the player getting the most blame is a loosie that subbed on
Now I'm not even saying that Akira should start, as I said earlier he has been flat since midway through the 2016 NPC. However calling him lazy is overstating things, or else there are a lot of lazy players around. He's just been less effective since recently. The 'lazy' criticism has followed him around even when he was at his peak and on top of almost every metric
It's almost like some people don't like the look on his face
Somebody did exactly the same comparison last year with Ofa T v Owen Franks.
Apparently that also proved that Ofa's workrate was far superior.
I'd like to see stats relating to first 3 to the breakdown amongst others. Taufua has been into everything at the breakdown this year which obviously compromises other stats as he's not standing in midfield waiting to be passed the ball.
