2017 School Rugby
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New season, new thread. No doubt, Sky will soon release the list of secondary school games it will broadcast this season. Looking forward to seeing some new emerging talent ... and hopefully Hastings BHS win the Top 4 this year!
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Anyone live in Gisborne? Interested to go watch Paarl Boys vs Gisborne BHS (1st of April) but would help knowing what time they start and where they're playing! Thanks in advance.
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@cheetahsBO Is Paarl touring NZ or is this a one-off game?
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They are touring yes. Their 1st XV haven't lost in a couple of years and their U16 sides have also been good the past couple years so expect a strong side.
27-Mar HJS Paarl BH 3rd XV Sacred Heart College 2nd XV
27-Mar HJS Paarl BH 1st XV Sacred Heart College 1st XV
28-Mar HJS Paarl BH u16 St Peters College u16
28-Mar HJS Paarl BH 2nd XV St Peters College 1st XV01-Apr HJS Paarl BH u16 Gisborne BHS u16
01-Apr HJS Paarl BH 3rd XV Gisborne BHS
01-Apr HJS Paarl BH 2nd XV Gisborne BHS 2nd XV
01-Apr HJS Paarl BH 1st XV Gisborne BHS 1st XV05-Apr HJS Paarl BH u16 Nelson College u16
05-Apr HJS Paarl BH Team 3 NC Colts
05-Apr HJS Paarl BH 2nd XV Nelson College 2nd XV
05-Apr HJS Paarl BH 1st XV Nelson College 1st XV07-Apr HJS Paarl BH u16 Christchurch BHS u16
07-Apr HJS Paarl BH Team 3 Christchurch BHS 3rd XV
07-Apr HJS Paarl BH 2nd XV Christchurch BHS 2nd XV
07-Apr HJS Paarl BH 1st XV Christchurch BHS 1st X -
@cheetahsBO Damn, that's a lot players coming out!
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@Nepia said in 2017 School Rugby:
@cheetahsBO Damn, that's a lot players coming out!
I think they use 2nd XV players on the bench so yeah 70 odd players plus a whole lot of parents.
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They're going to be seeing a bit of the country with that itinerary. Gisborne BHS wasn't that strong last year.
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@cheetahsBO Maybe ask your question via this FB page. The guy who runs the page may know it, or one of the people who commented on this post (Louis de Bruyn).
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@Stargazer said in 2017 School Rugby:
New season, new thread. No doubt, Sky will soon release the list of secondary school games it will broadcast this season. Looking forward to seeing some new emerging talent ... and hopefully Hastings BHS win the Top 4 this year!
FYI - HBHS are playing a couple of pre-season fixtures in Auckland. St Kentigern's on 20/4 at SKC. I think they may also be Kings College but definitely SKC on 20th April.
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Bit late for Sacred Heart & St. Peter's scores but Paarl Boys High put up cricket scores against Gisborne. Really taken over from Grey College as the genuine superpower school in South Africa and look on track to go unbeaten this year as well if the strength of their 1st and 2nds is anything to go by
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The 1st XV schedule on the Rugby Channel has been released. Less games are to be broadcast this season and neither MAGS or Hastings BHS feature until regional playoffs.
April 29: Tamaki v Otahuhu (Auckland 1A/1B promotion-relegation)
May 6: Shirley BHS v Timaru BHS (UC Championship)
May 13: Takapuna Grammar v Massey (North Harbour 1A)
May 20: Wellington v Palmerston North BHS (Tranzit festival)
May 24: Southland BHS v Otago BHS (Traditional)
May 27: St Kentigern v Sacred Heart (Auckland 1A)
June 1: Christchurch BHS v Christ's (UC/Traditional)
June 3: Chiefs Cup final, TBA
June 10: St Peter's v Auckland Grammar (Auckland 1A)
June 24: Hamilton BHS v Rotorua BHS (Super 8 )
July 1: St Paul's Collegiate v St Peter's, Cambridge (CNI)
July 8: Tauranga BC v Hamilton BHS (Super 8 )
July 15: Rosehill v Te Awamutu
July 22: Christchurch BHS v St Bede's (UC)
July 29: Auckland Grammar v St Kentigern (Auckland 1A)
August 5: St Andrew's v Christ's (UC)
August 12: Super 8 final, TBA
August 17: North Harbour 1A final, TBA
August 19: Auckland 1A semifinals, TBA
August 20: Wellington final, TBA
August 26: Auckland 1A final, TBA
September 2-3: Regional playoffs, TBA
September 8-10: Top 4 semifinals and finals, Palmerston North -
@Bovidae How stupid is it that Hastings and MAGs don't have a match? You'd think they could have a traditional match for each of them - Hastings v Napier or another Super 8 team, instead Hamilton Boys get two games!
Don't know why I'm whinging, I'm not even in NZ to watch it - must still be annoyed from The Walking Dead finale.
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@Nepia It's not just no Hastings BHS. There's not any Hawke's Bay school in that list at all. Absolute shambles! Not even the Palmerston North BHS v Napier BHS game for the Polson Banner.
But 2 games from Hamilton BHS, Auckland Grammar, Christchurch BHS, St Kentigern and Christ's are televised. Shithouse.
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I'm sure Sky decides where they want to broadcast games from, as there is a bit of planning involved with scaffolding for cameras, OBU etc. Coming to Hamilton and Tauranga from Auckland isn't that much hassle.
I was surprised when I saw the list but Hastings could still feature live on TV in the Super 8 final.
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Good to see a few more South Island games this year, coverage in other years has been dominated by North Island games.
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The Super 8 draw is available to download. Round 1 is on June 10.
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@Bovidae said in 2017 School Rugby:
I'm sure Sky decides where they want to broadcast games from, as there is a bit of planning involved with scaffolding for cameras, OBU etc. Coming to Hamilton and Tauranga from Auckland isn't that much hassle.
I was surprised when I saw the list but Hastings could still feature live on TV in the Super 8 final.
Apparently, it wasn't a hassle in previous years, when the games were spread all over the country. I also don't see how it's less of a hassle to broadcast a game in Southland than in Taranaki, Wellington, Nelson or Hawke's Bay.
@Bovidae said in 2017 School Rugby:
The Super 8 draw is available to download. Round 1 is on June 10.
Yes, thank you, I downloaded it a while back.
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@Stargazer Budget restrictions and the Lions tour are given as reasons in the NZH article. The total number of games has been reduced from 49 to 30.
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@Bovidae said in 2017 School Rugby:
@Stargazer Budget restrictions and the Lions tour are given as reasons in the NZH article. The total number of games has been reduced from 49 to 30.
Yeah, I noticed. I actually hope that regional sports organisations like Sport Hawke's Bay, College Sport Wellington etc will become more active in promoting local schools and club games by organising livestreams online or radio (with commentary). It's not that hard and shouldn't be that expensive? Radio Eketahuna broadcasts all Wai-Bush games and important local club games. There's also a radio station in Wellington (I can't remember the name) that broadcasts a lot of games. That should become normal practice for games that are not on tv. I can live without a tv broadcast if there is an alternative to follow a game live via another medium.
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The game of the weekend, and curtain raiser for the Blues v Hurricanes game:
MAGS v Hastings BHS - Eden Park, kick-off 5pm
MAGS:
1 Oliver Shepherd, 2. Soanne Vikena, 3. Roderick Puafisi, 4. Luka Klubien, 5. Jack Casey – Pickering, 6. Terrell Peita, 7. Chay Mackwood, 8. John Latu
9 Ben Young, 10. Katene Clarke, 11. Harley Maynard, 12. Kahurangi Morehu, 13. Noah Foster, 14. Joel Cobb, 15. James StricklandReserves:
16 Amon Langi, 17. Craven Martin, 18. Devon Dudding, 19. Mikaere Wiki, 20. Taiki Ando, 21. Dylan Moon, 22. Samuel Milo, 23. Leo Rusher, 24. Carlos Muru, 25. Charlie Lorenz, 26. Adrian LorenzHastings BHS
1 Posala Hunt, 2. Damarus Hokianga, 3. Kianu Kereru-Symes, 4. Tane Hohipa, 5. Donovan Mataira, 6. Liam Udy-Johns, 7. Jeriah Mua, 8. Devan Flanders
9 Folau Fakatava, 10. Lincoln McClutchie, 11. Trent Hape, 12. Danny Toala, 13. Dennon Robinson, 14. Kini Naholo, 15. Gideon KautaiReserves:
16 Latu Amani, 17. Corban Kireka, 18. Ray Finau, 19. Aiden Fleming, 20. Sam Taylor, 21. Latrell Smiler-Ah-Kiong, 22. Jordan Thompson-Dunn, 23. Reno Jardine, 24. Michael NaitokaniScore updates and comments from Ferners who are going to Eden Park in time to see this game will be very welcome!
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From twitter:
Half time: MAGS 0 - 21 Hastings BHS
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Tweet from the Blues account:
Congrats to Hastings Boys High School, who beat MAGS 43-5 in our KFC curtain raiser. That's 7 tries to 1! #BLUvHUR
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Damn, so I assume most of MAGs team were in 7th form last year.
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@Nepia Or 8th form (Year 14).
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@Stargazer I was at this game. HBHS dominated from go to whoah. They just had too much firepower for MAGS. The obvious strength for the team is the 9, 10, 12 combo but there are just so many other 'guns' across the park for HBHS. It was hard to single anyone out as it was very much a complete team performance but besides 9, 10,& 12 the no.8 Flanders is a real athlete and Symes was a rock up front...a real leader. The stocky right winger was a handful too every time he ran the ball and tough as nails! They scored some great tries from set piece, broken play and off of MAGS errors. As good as the Hastings were with the ball it was perhaps their defence which was most impressive. They gave MAGS nothing! Great line speed and communication on defence and solid contact with the big MAGS ball carriers. Gee they will be hard to beat this year. They play ST Kentigerns on Thursday I believe. That should be a good one!
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@Nepia said in 2017 School Rugby:
Damn, so I assume most of MAGs team were in 7th form last year.
Yep, that team was years in the making. I remember a few years ago where they had a young team, mostly 5th formers, and they competed well. Everyone knew they would be a force when they were 7th form, and they proved it right last year.
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@Nogusta said in 2017 School Rugby:
@Stargazer I was at this game. HBHS dominated from go to whoah. They just had too much firepower for MAGS. The obvious strength for the team is the 9, 10, 12 combo but there are just so many other 'guns' across the park for HBHS. It was hard to single anyone out as it was very much a complete team performance but besides 9, 10,& 12 the no.8 Flanders is a real athlete and Symes was a rock up front...a real leader. The stocky right winger was a handful too every time he ran the ball and tough as nails! They scored some great tries from set piece, broken play and off of MAGS errors. As good as the Hastings were with the ball it was perhaps their defence which was most impressive. They gave MAGS nothing! Great line speed and communication on defence and solid contact with the big MAGS ball carriers. Gee they will be hard to beat this year. They play ST Kentigerns on Thursday I believe. That should be a good one!
Thanks for that info @Nogusta! Good to hear from someone who watched the game. The official line-up had Kini Naholo, younger brother of Waisake, at 14. I've seen him play sevens and he was a monster (in a good sense, obviously). Good to hear he's the same when playing XVs.
It's such a pity that the Sky 1st XV broadcast schedule doesn't include one single game of Hastings BHS. We'll have to wait until the Super 8 and National finals until we get to see them play (assuming nothing goes wrong in the mean time)! Not any of their Super 8 games is within driving distance either.
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@Stargazer certainly a strange 'decision' not to have any HBHS games on Sky this year. They'd be a pretty safe bet though to be appearing in one (or more...) of the televised finals. It definitely wasn't Naholo I was talking about...short stocky kid...reminded me a bit of Mason Emerson. Copped a couple of high shots but just kept running hard and fast!
I think Naholo was on the bench, or may have been replaced? The centre Robinson also had a strong game....like I said earlier it was hard to fault any of the Hastings players....I forgot Jeriah Mua as well who at times looked like Julian Savea! -
Sanix World Rugby Youth Tournament 2017 ( Fukuoka, Japan)
New Zealand will be represented by Mount Albert Grammar (Auckland) and St Mary's College (Wellington)The boys will play a XVs tournament from 28 April to 5 May:
Pool stage: April 28, 29 and May 1, 2017
Place decider tournament: May 2, 4 and 5, 2017The girls will play a sevens tournament on 28 & 29 April:
Pool stage: April 28, 2017
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1st XV Development Camp at St Paul's Collegiate (Hamilton) with two 50 minute games to be played by each team:
April 23
1:45pm: St. Paul's Collegiate v Sacred Heart College
1:45pm: St. Bede's College v Napier Boys' High School
2:45pm: Gisborne Boys' High School v King's College
2:45pm: St. Kentigern College v Christchurch Boys' High SchoolApril 25
12:00pm: St. Bede's College v King's College
12:00pm: Christchurch Boys' High School v De La Salle College
12:00pm: Francis Douglas Memorial College v Aorere College*
1:20pm: St. Paul's Collegiate v Gisborne Boys' High School
1:20pm: Sacred Heart College v Napier Boys' High School*Bonus Game
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No such thing as school holidays.
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Final score - Hastings Boys 15, St Kents 5
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@Nogusta said in 2017 School Rugby:
Final score - Hastings Boys 15, St Kents 5
Not a lot in the game although HBHS clearly looked like the better team today. Understandable given the experience of their ‘big 4’ (McLutchie/Fakatava/Toala/Kereru-Symes) and the fact they’ve been on the road for a couple of weeks now and this being SKCs first hit out of the preseason. HBHS are very well organized team. After watching their game against MAGS and again today they really look to have found that balance in their game to be able to play with great structure as well as having a great nous for knowing when an ‘off the cuff’ opportunity might be on and taking it! They've got the personnel to play any type of game and opposition – tight or wide, structured or what’s in front of them. St Kents were a match for most parts of the game but just gave away too much possession. As they did against MAGS – the HBHS defence harassed and bustled St Kents on D, not allowing any good ball. SKC star player Etene Nanai (playing at centre) as a result was starved of any good early ball in space. The one opportunity he did get he danced around his marker and ran his fullback in for their only try – highlighting how dangerous he was and what a good job Hastings did of denying him and other threats in the SKC backline any quality ball.
SKC had a quite a few what you would consider starters either on the bench or not playing due to injury. There was a very noticeable difference in their play when 1st five eighth Rivez Reihana came on for the last 20 mins and in fact SKC probably had the better of HBHS during this period. Would love to see these 2 match up again when both are at full strength. -
Results from day 1 of the 1st XV Development Camp at St Paul's Collegiate (Hamilton):
St. Paul's Collegiate 12 - 19 Sacred Heart College
St. Bede's College 6 - 34 Napier Boys' High School
Gisborne Boys' High School 7 - 58 King's College
St. Kentigern College 46 - 6 Christchurch Boys' High School -
Day 2 of the 1st XV Development Camp at St Paul's Collegiate (Hamilton):
Due to serious injuries suffered by players from Christchurch Boy's HS (who lost 6 players) and St Bede's College, there was a change in the schedule (different games, the first two games only lasting 50 minutes):
Results:
St. Bede's College 0 - 7 Sacred Heart College (50 minutes)
Christchurch Boys' High School 31 - 5 De La Salle College (50 minutes, uncontested scrums)
King's College 19 - 14 Napier Boys' High School
St. Paul's Collegiate 34 - 14 Gisborne Boys' High School -
Speaking of Etene Nanai, he will be a Chief as of next year. Most thought he was lost to Union having signed for the Warriors as a 5th Former that but contract only covered him for his schoolboy years and the Chiefs have since won the race for what must be most sought after signature in schoolboy rugby.
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He's played exclusively at fullback for the past two season but could be moved into centre so he gets more time with the ball.
He's the most devastating runner I've seen. Makes Damien Mackenzie look like Richard Loe.
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