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    Crash
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    Am watching as a pre-cursor to the Maori v Lions. England look bloody well coached and their basic drills and skill-set are very good. They maintain possession for long periods. Black Ferns down 14-19, we just need to hold onto the ball when we get it and be more clinical.

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    England have improved a lot. That's what going pro has done for them. Unfortunately, that means there is no level playing field anymore. I wonder whether other countries will follow their example. I think NZR should seriously consider it, at least for the year leading up to a World Cup.

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    Yep it doesn't look as if we've been tested thus far. I' d rather a loss now and take some learning from it, than going into the WC in August thinking we are invincible - and then lose. The gulf in class is quite stark. We are just living off scraps and a couple of x-factor players. Weather playing a part too

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    The Ferns cannot defend against a driving maul. The English are too big and too strong. Big work on.

    England lead 24-14.

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    And another try to England from a line-out maul.

    What's up with NZ teams not being able to defend against a rolling maul? Blues, NZU20s (to a degree) etc etc, now the Ferns.

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    @Stargazer Fuck yes, as just having watched yet another try scored by a rolling maul by England, Christ the defence coach should be taken out and given a bloody good flogging.

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    Stargazer
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    @Crash When he isn't busy with the ABs, they should let Wayne Smith work with the Ferns ahead of the World Cup.

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    Really enjoyed that.

    England as complete a team as any out there - male and female.

    Thoroughly deserved their win.

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    Great try Subritzky-Nafatali.

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    Full time: Black Ferns 21 - 29 England

    Deserved win for England, who looked bigger, better and stronger.

    Good lesson for the Ferns, who've got a list of work-ons. England may take the top ranking. The Ferns will be better for it during the World Cup. If the NZ coaches do their job.

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    From a purely NZ perspective it wasn't good - however, as I said - rather take the loss now than in the WC, Such a lot of work-ons. Our basic skills need to improve. A lot. Surely must be a huge lesson in terms of how to defend a rolling maul and how to keep possession for long periods - and use it well. We can't keep on relying on x-factor players to get us through. Simply not good enough. Need to do better at this level.

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    Black Ferns squad for the 2017 Women's Rugby World Cup (9-26 August, Ireland)

    FORWARDS
    Adora Itunu (Auckland) - 11
    Toka Natua (Waikato) 15
    Aleisha Nelson (Auckland) - 23
    Sosoli Talawadua (Waikato) - 3
    Fiao'o Faamausili – captain (Auckland) - 47
    Becky Wood (North Harbour) - 2
    Charmaine Smith (North Harbour) - 11
    Eloise Blackwell (Auckland) - 27
    Charmaine McMenamin (Auckland) - 9
    Les Ketu (Bay of Plenty) - 5
    Linda Itunu (Auckland) - 33
    Rawinia Everitt (Counties Manukau) - 22
    Sarah Goss (Manawatu) - 5
    Te-Kura Ngata-Aerengamate (Counties Manukau) - 15
    Aroha Savage (Counties Manukau) - 23
    Aotearoa (Katie) Mata'u (Counties Manukau) - 5

    BACKS
    Stacey Waaka (Waikato) - 11
    Kelly Brazier (Otago) - 32
    Victoria Subritzky-Nafatali (Counties Manukau) - 14
    Kendra Cocksedge (Canterbury) - 37
    Kristina Sue (Manawatu) - 7
    Hazel Tubic (Auckland) - 10
    Renee Wickliffe (Counties Manukau) - 27
    Portia Woodman (Counties Manukau) - 11
    Selica Winiata (Manawatu) - 27
    Carla Hohepa (Waikato) 14
    Theresa Fitzpatrick (Auckland) - 2
    Chelsea Alley (Waikato) - 14

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31052/black-ferns-squad-for-2017-womens-rugby-world-cup-named

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    WRWC: Past winners - NZ tournament results

    1991: USA - NZ finished 4th
    1994: England - NZ did not participate because the tournament wasn't officially endorsed by the then IRB & NZR refused to pay team expenses for that reason
    1998: NZ
    2002: NZ
    2006: NZ
    2010: NZ
    2014: England - NZ finished 5th (note that they only finished this low because of one lost pool game!)

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    No Honey Bill?

    Unavailable for selection or not picked?

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    @Bovidae I'm a bit surprised, too. Before the final game of the June Series v England, she said that it was her last game on home soil, because she's retiring from international rugby for family reasons. I concluded from that that she would still be available for the WRWC.

    By the way, this is a nice interview with her:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p055qcc0

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    Only 10 days until the World Cup!

    Sad news for lock/loose forward Rawinia Everitt, who suffered a possibly career-ending back injury; she has been replaced in the squad by Auckland's Charlene Gubb.

    Also, this is Black Ferns captain Fiao'o Fa'amausili's 5th World Cup; impressive!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/95043992/black-ferns-captain-fiaoo-faamausili-feels-like-a-21-year-old-ahead-of-fifth-rugby-world-cup

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    Cop, firefighter, pilot: Our women's rugby team is winning titles while working fulltime

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    The Women's Rugby World Cup (WRWC) starts on Thursday morning (NZT). The games will all be broadcast by Sky.

    The Black Ferns' first game is against Wales at 1.45am (Sky Sport 1).
    Some of the replays: Thu 8.45am and 5.00pm (SS1), Fri 2.30pm & 5.30pm (Rugby Ch).

    The first Black Ferns squad has been named today (number of Test matches in brackets):

    1 Toka Natua (11)
    2 Fiao'o Faamausili - captain - (47)
    3 Aldora Itunu (11)
    4 Eloise Blackwell (27)
    5 Rebecca Wood (2)
    6 Charmaine Smith (11)
    7 Sarah Goss (5)
    8 Aroha Savage (23)
    9 Kendra Cocksedge (37)
    10 Victoria Subritzky-Nafatali (14)
    11 Renee Wickliffe (26)
    12 Kelly Brazier (32)
    13 Stacey Waaka (6)
    14 Portia Woodman (11)
    15 Selica Winiata (27)

    Reserves:
    16 Te Kura Ngata-Aerengamate (15)
    17 Sosoli Talawadua (3)
    18 Aotearoa Mata'u (5)
    19 Lesley Ketu (5)
    20 Charmaine McMenamin (9)
    21 Kristina Sue (7)
    22 Theresa Fitzpatrick (2)
    23 Carla Hohepa (14)

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31190/black-ferns-team-to-play-wales-named

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    Crucial
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    Unonverted try after 8 minutes. (Winiata)

    NZ 5 Wales 0

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    All in the Wales half but NZ making errors.

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