Biggest Tool in World Sport
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Well yes and no. There is a shit load more money to be made in sponsorship than there is in prize money.
No doubt that he's a complete tool, but he's of mixed race, is a huge talent when it comes to tennis, and in his own way, is quite charasmatic.
Given that probably 50% plus of the world are doing jobs they don't want to do, at a salary of probably 1% of what Kyrgios should be earning if he "played the game", it's hard to disagree that he is indeed, the biggest tool in world sport. the Martin Shkreli of sport?
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@MajorRage said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Well yes and no. There is a shit load more money to be made in sponsorship than there is in prize money.
No doubt that he's a complete tool, but he's of mixed race, is a huge talent when it comes to tennis, and in his own way, is quite charasmatic.
Given that probably 50% plus of the world are doing jobs they don't want to do, at a salary of probably 1% of what Kyrgios should be earning if he "played the game", it's hard to disagree that he is indeed, the biggest tool in world sport. the Martin Shkreli of sport?
If Aaron Smiths stalkers aren't happy with what he is earning they'll positively blow a fuse if they ever come across Kyrgios popping into the toilets with a nubile young lass.
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@MajorRage was that at me?
So why does he get sponsors? Because fans buy the shit he is sponsored to wear!
His manager or someone needs to smack him around the ears and tell him to sort his shit out...or one of his sponsors pull sponsorship would be ideal.
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@taniwharugby Nah, it was at NTA. Although in reality is was more a point of view than disagreeing / commenting on anything else.
There is certainly money to be made as the "bad boy" of a certain sport, but you at least have to just be super passionate, arrogant or something. Not trying is not being a bad boy .. it's being a tool.
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Why we might resist caning Nick Kyrgios and perhaps just ask if he’s OK
Why we might resist caning Nick Kyrgios and perhaps just ask if he’s OK | Russell Jackson
It is becoming apparent that the tennis star is not only resisting adulthood, he is withdrawing himself further back into the comforts of childhood
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@Bovidae said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@SammyC Any player that can play in a Davis Cup game hungover and eventually win after sobering up is a legend. Sure, it was a dead rubber but a great story nonetheless.
Agree
few more that could be added to the scale too. Pat cash and the woodys spring to mind -
Further to Infidel's article I'm wondering if he is wired correctly, and we SHOULD be asking if he is ok in a Beyond Blue kind of sense.
We're judging him on expected standards of a normal sane human being. I do wonder if he is though and therefore if telling him to "stop being a tool" is really the right approach.
Do we tell John Kirwan to cheer the fuck up when he's depressed? "Stop it, get a grip"?
Just saying.
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@taniwharugby said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@MajorRage was that at me?
So why does he get sponsors? Because fans buy the shit he is sponsored to wear!
His manager or someone needs to smack him around the ears and tell him to sort his shit out...or one of his sponsors pull sponsorship would be ideal.
Nick is a bit like Andre Agassi back in his early years. A long time before he realised his potential Agassi was the bad boy on tour, more known for his big hair fluoro tops and shoes and his denim tennis shorts and his brash behaviour. I didn't care that he wasn't ranked in the top 10 but I could have killed to have got my hands on his Nike gears at the time
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@booboo So what you are saying is that now everytime anybody is the world acts like a cock, we have to step back, give them a hug and make sure they aren't depressed?
Disagree, behaviour of not returning serve, abusing crowd, not trying and continually being a piston wristed gibbon, is the behaviour of a piston wristed gibbon.
If I followed your way, i'd have to ask 3 bosses, about 400 colleagues over the years, at least 25 guys in the pub, a whole shit load of chicks the world over, just about every single taxi driver, bus driver & plenty of other people if they are ok.
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@canefan said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@taniwharugby said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@MajorRage was that at me?
So why does he get sponsors? Because fans buy the shit he is sponsored to wear!
His manager or someone needs to smack him around the ears and tell him to sort his shit out...or one of his sponsors pull sponsorship would be ideal.
Nick is a bit like Andre Agassi back in his early years. A long time before he realised his potential Agassi was the bad boy on tour, more known for his big hair fluoro tops and shoes and his denim tennis shorts and his brash behaviour. I didn't care that he wasn't ranked in the top 10 but I could have killed to have got my hands on his Nike gears at the time
He's nothing like Andre.
Agassi was cool as fuck, and every young player wanted to be him. I had no interest in learning a 1 handed backhand and was supremely jealous of anyone that had connections in the USA and managed to obtain his outfits.
Will there ever be another tennis shoe as cool as the AIr Tech Challegnge?
I don't think Kyrgious has anywhere near the popularity
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@SammyC said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@canefan said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@taniwharugby said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@MajorRage was that at me?
So why does he get sponsors? Because fans buy the shit he is sponsored to wear!
His manager or someone needs to smack him around the ears and tell him to sort his shit out...or one of his sponsors pull sponsorship would be ideal.
Nick is a bit like Andre Agassi back in his early years. A long time before he realised his potential Agassi was the bad boy on tour, more known for his big hair fluoro tops and shoes and his denim tennis shorts and his brash behaviour. I didn't care that he wasn't ranked in the top 10 but I could have killed to have got my hands on his Nike gears at the time
He's nothing like Andre.
Agassi was cool as fuck, and every young player wanted to be him. I had no interest in learning a 1 handed backhand and was supremely jealous of anyone that had connections in the USA and managed to obtain his outfits.
I don't think Kyrgious has anywhere near the popularity
I said a "bit" like, but I knew it was only a matter of time before someone would be pedantic enough to argue the point
I'm no longer a teenager (really no longer) so I can't speak for them but apparently the kids think differently to us older folks. When I was a kid the tennis establishment did not think much of Agassi's antics either, you can't look at him through the lens of knowing how the rest of his career turned out and the man he became. No one (including him I'd imagine, based on his book) believed he would morph into one of the game's elder statesmen later -
@canefan said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@SammyC said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@canefan said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@taniwharugby said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@MajorRage was that at me?
So why does he get sponsors? Because fans buy the shit he is sponsored to wear!
His manager or someone needs to smack him around the ears and tell him to sort his shit out...or one of his sponsors pull sponsorship would be ideal.
Nick is a bit like Andre Agassi back in his early years. A long time before he realised his potential Agassi was the bad boy on tour, more known for his big hair fluoro tops and shoes and his denim tennis shorts and his brash behaviour. I didn't care that he wasn't ranked in the top 10 but I could have killed to have got my hands on his Nike gears at the time
He's nothing like Andre.
Agassi was cool as fuck, and every young player wanted to be him. I had no interest in learning a 1 handed backhand and was supremely jealous of anyone that had connections in the USA and managed to obtain his outfits.
I don't think Kyrgious has anywhere near the popularity
I said a "bit" like, but I knew it was only a matter of time before someone would be pedantic enough to argue the point
I'm no longer a teenager (really no longer) so I can't speak for them but apparently the kids think differently to us older folks. When I was a kid the tennis establishment did not think much of Agassi's antics either, you can't look at him through the lens of knowing how the rest of his career turned out and the man he became. No one (including him I'd imagine, based on his book) believed he would morph into one of the game's elder statesmen laterOf course he's a "bit like" Agassi (they both play tennis, some people dont like them)... but its not a great comparison.
At the same stage of his career, Andre had the biggest selling signature shoes and raquets in the world market. So was obviously bloody popular..... Kyrgious doesnt have either of these, he;s not half the brand that Agassi was.
Andre could have retired at this stage of his career and people would still remember him.... I think if Kyrgious left the game he'd be forgotten in a year
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@SammyC Don't tell us you had the mullet too?
Agassi was one of the first players I remember who went against the establishment and wore coloured clothing. He might have had an attitude but he wasn't a quitter.
My tennis heros were McEnroe and Edberg so I only ever used a one-handed backhand. It worked out well enough back in the day!
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You're right Bovidae, Andre wasn't a quitter. I was lucky enough to see him in person when he won the 1996 Oz open singles. He played Petr Korda in the QF(or was it the SF), returning serve standing a metre inside the baseline. Petr was no mug but he barely got through his follow through and the return had sailed past for the winner. You are right Sammie, if Nick left he'd barely be a footnote. The odds of him getting into the top 10 would appear to be longish right now, time will tell
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@canefan I don't know about that. He's made top 15, and he has oodles of talent, so it wouldn't take much of an attitude shift to make top 10.
