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    @Chris-B. said in All Whites:

    @canefan So far, we're doing as well as England.

    But more surprisingly, we're doing better than Germany, Portugal, Italy, Japan and, notably, Argentina, who are already knocked out.

    I watched last night. We did well to withstand the pressure after letting a goal in and score again

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    @Chris-B. I have only watched a little of the action but France, Venezuela and Uruguay look to be the 3 best teams.

    The Zambia-Iran game was bizarre. I saw Iran take a 2-0 lead early in the second half from a penalty, after an early fuck-up by the Zambian GK gifted a goal in the first 10 mins. I did something else for 30 mins and switched back to the game and Zambia now led 4-2.

    At this level anything can happen so I wouldn't be surprised if the eventual winner wasn't one of the 3 countries above. Serbia upset Brazil in the final in NZ 2 years ago.

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    That Confed Cup squad is a bit weak. What made us a good team in 2010 was our defence and centre midfielders. Our defence is good with Smith and Reid there but our midfield is a big weakness.

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    @hydro11 No Ryan Nelsen to organise the defence. I'm sure Reid would have been doing that role at the Confed Cup. Dura might be the man this time.

    Simon Elliott was the unsung hero in 2010 as the holding midfielder.

    So for the U20s tonight, a Honduras win or draw with Vietnam means NZ would go through as group runners-up. Vietnam would need a comprehensive win to improve their GD to move into 2nd. If that happened then a NZ loss to France wouldn't be too bad provided they don't leak goals and have to fight it out as one of the 3rd placed teams.

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    The NZ U20s are currently trailing 2-0 to France so now have a GD of 0. Vietnam and Honduras are locked at 0-0. As it stands NZ would finish 2nd in their group.

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    Final score 2-0 to France. As Honduras beat Vietnam 2-0 we qualify 2nd in the group and move to the Round of 16, probably against USA.

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    USA leading by 1 at the half in a physical encounter. Cameron Carter-Vickers got two bizarre YCs getting himself sent off. That makes three of their first team players out of the next round clash

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    The end of the road for the NZ U20s losing to USA. I watched the 1st half and we spent most of the time defending to trail 1-0 from a deflected shot. Same old story on attack though, no service to the strikers meant a lack of shots on goal, or any real attacking threat.

    I'm glad I didn't stay up for the 2nd half as the USA scored 5 unanswered goals.

    And to prove my point on how unpredictable this tournament is, Italy upset France 2-1 in the other late game. France was one of the favourites and had beaten Italy 4-0 in the UEFA European U-19 Championship final a year ago.

    The All Whites play Northern Ireland at 6:45 am tomorrow on SS2.

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    England are the U20 football WC champions!

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    It's 1966 all over again! 🙂

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    Is country hopping allowed in football? Now that Roy Krishna has obtained NZ citizenship, can he play for the All Whites (after already having played for Fiji)? If not, can he still play for Fiji? How does that work in football?

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    If I remember correctly, there is no country swapping once you made senior international team

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    @stargazer It will mean he is not classified as an overseas player for the Phoenix.

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    I thought it applied at age grade level as well? Didn't Rory Fallon or someone have to make a call to turn down an England youth team as it would commit him forever?

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    @booboo said in All Whites:

    I thought it applied at age grade level as well? Didn't Rory Fallon or someone have to make a call to turn down an England youth team as it would commit him forever?

    It used to.

    FIFA used to be the poster boy for strict nationality qualifications. They relaxed it about a decade ago

    Now it is only competitive senior internationals that bind a player to one country.

    In 2014 Diego Costa made his debut for Brazil, in a friendly, then switched a few months later to Spain (on residency) and played for Spain in the 2014 world cup in Brazil.

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    @rapido said in All Whites:

    @booboo said in All Whites:

    I thought it applied at age grade level as well? Didn't Rory Fallon or someone have to make a call to turn down an England youth team as it would commit him forever?

    It used to.

    FIFA used to be the poster boy for strict nationality qualifications. They relaxed it about a decade ago

    Now it is only competitive senior internationals that bind a player to one country.

    In 2014 Diego Costa made his debut for Brazil, in a friendly, then switched a few months later to Spain (on residency) and played for Spain in the 2014 world cup in Brazil.

    Oh wow! That is interesting, so you can play a friendly and not be tied.

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    Big bump.

    WELLINGTON, July 17 (Reuters) - New Zealand coach Danny Hay says his side will be able to test themselves against some of the best players in the world when they face FIFA's top-ranked team Belgium in a friendly in October.
    
    New Zealand Football (NZF) said on Friday the match in Brussels had been arranged for Oct. 8, though it still required approval from authorities.
    
    International football has been on hold since March due to COVID-19 but will ramp up in September with the UEFA Nations League. The match precedes Belgium's friendlies against England away on Oct. 11 and Iceland on Oct. 14.
    

    🤞

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    After getting excited that the All Whites would be playing two European heavyweights in Belgium and England covid-19 has changed those plans. The game against Belgium was already cancelled and now this...

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    @Bovidae hugely disappointed for the AW. For some players that would be in pinnacle of their career

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    LOL.

    Aug 22, 2021  /  Sport

    No more All Whites?

    No more All Whites?

    New Zealand Football are contemplating dropping the moniker for the men's national team.

    It's just amazing that people can be so dumb.

    On topic, the worse thing about the AW colours and name is that stupid fundamentalist football kit-clash rules means that a team is playing in all white in about 1/3 of all international games.

    It was a reasonably rare combo. Real Madrid, Leeds etc That's about it. Now it is every third team's alt kit or 3rd kit if their second kit has a clash of socks with another teams collar.

    Despite that rant, I'd keep it.

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