Aussie Cricket
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@hydro11 Why? In rugby we never play our best team against any of the tier2 and even some of the tier one teams. Given we've already played Aus in a series this season (and they owned us) it makes perfect sense for those players that want a break to take one.
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The Aussie scheduling this year is crazy, Davey DD has said as much publicly already and I agree with him.
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@No-Quarter yea, their whole system is skewed, with the domestic game not syncing with the international game, the BBL taking over (understandably) and the Chappell-Hadlee really screwing things up
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@MajorRage said in Aussie Cricket:
@hydro11 Why? In rugby we never play our best team against any of the tier2 and even some of the tier one teams. Given we've already played Aus in a series this season (and they owned us) it makes perfect sense for those players that want a break to take one.
Is Warner going to play some of the T20's vs Sri Lanka? I just don't see the point in playing the games at all if the best players aren't involved. Schedule less games if players can only play less games. Rugby is a bit different because it is more physically demanding and you have to blood players.
It's not just us either. Australia refused to take Hazlewood or Starc to South Africa (and got creamed) and they sent Smith home from Sri Lanka. Basically Aussie Cricket just refuse to pick their best players for away games but they make sure their top players are playing the home games. It creates a fundamental asymmetry in cricket if teams only care about winning games at home. Australia clearly didn't care at all about the series in South Africa or Sri Lanka, so why should the viewers care? The ICC cares. This is why they only want teams to play about 12 ODIs a year. All this cricket has become meaningless because the cricketing boards themselves don't seem to care.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
@No-Quarter yea, their whole system is skewed, with the domestic game not syncing with the international game, the BBL taking over (understandably) and the Chappell-Hadlee really screwing things up
I think they sort of have it right with the domestic game. They get the one day stuff over and done with quickly and then the whole season is devoted to the shield with the Big Bash in the middle. In NZ, we only have one round of 4 day cricket before the 1st test against South Africa. That's hardly enough for Raval and Nicholls.
They just play too much international cricket over in Australia.
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@MajorRage said in Aussie Cricket:
@hydro11 Thats what happens when the cricket board is effectively made up of 3 nations.
I am sure that Aus are still confident of towelling us without Warner.
The question is less of whether they will win. The question is more about whether the viewers will care. It seems the Aussies don't value playing us very highly (Warne said in commentary he would rather have the top guys playing shield cricket). For us, it is probably the pinnacle of the summer.
Sport needs to be meaningful to get people to care. ODI cricket doesn't seem to have that right now.
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Pakistan can not wait to go home. Aus batting first and are currently 207 without loss after 32. Warner with another quick hundred, Head playing the foil.
400 on offer given the hitting to come
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And they can't catch for shit
I hate the high balls. Preferred the ones you didn't have to think about. Square cut to point in the bink of an eye? No problem. Skied ball to long on? Fuck that...
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@mariner4life eat a dick.
When is Queensland Day? Or do you all celebrate when Daylight Savings starts in southern states?
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@mariner4life oh right. Sister live nearby then?
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Steve Smith goooorne. Bung ankle.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11790059
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No Warner and no Smith? Great stuff, find a way to get rid of Starc and Hazlewood and we're in with a shout
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Australian cricket has been fucking great for petty bitchiness over the past 6 months or so.
The latest is Cameron White v the selectors v the Players Association.
Cameron White came out and said he thinks it's wrong that the Aus team is treated like a development side (Geeves calls it "the search for the one" the quest to find the next great generational player), where guys are thrown in to the team with little behind them, based on not much more than potential. Heazlet is the one he's talking about, who has very little cricket behind him, but a good age-group record. Meanwhile White averaged 76 in the domestic ODI comp, and can't get a look in. It's a valid argument.
Hohns, the chairman of selectors, retorted that he was surprised by White's comments, given he was once a young player given a go, and he didn't do much when given the chance. Mee-ooww. (this is also a valid point however).
The players association has obviously weighed in, and called the comments disrespectful, and had a go at CA for over the top retorts to any perceived criticism (this too is a valid point).
Just goes to show international cricket can be just as bitchy as club cricket.
Oh, and England lost 8 for 8 in 19 deliveries to lose a T20 in India by 75 runs. Black Caps-esque
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White being overlooked for this tour is madness. He's right, they are treating the national side as a development team.
Thing with cricket is a lot of players mature a bit later on in their careers and hit their peak between 26 - 35. Throwing a 22 year old in and then casting him aside when he invariably fails doesn't tell you much. The "next great player" will be easy to spot at the lower levels, there's no need to try and blood them in the international arena before they are ready.
I can remember fairly recent criticism of Aus picking old players and not giving the youngsters a go. I guess you need to find a balance.
Also, England have had their collective asses handed to them in India. Puts our results into perspective a bit.