Aussie Cricket
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I've always been a bit perplexed by underarm. It still resonates so strongly, and yet what Australia did was entirely legal at the time. It seems to be the 80s equivalent to Sandpapergate, and yet they are completely different situations with only one actually outside the rules of the game.
I don't agree with the decision to bowl underarm, but still to be talking about it 40 years later?
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@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
I don't agree with the decision to bowl underarm, but still to be talking about it 40 years later?
Aus is consistently so much better than us at Cricket, that to get robbed of the chance to win by something that Benaud called a disgrace really rankles.
Let's be honest, the chances of scoring a 6 off the last ball was tiny. Yet it's not sporting to not allow a competition. It's like that bowler this week conceding a wide on the last ball of the innings preventing a batter getting a ton. If he did it, it was completely legit, but people arc up, the media get going, etc.
Anyway, here's Benaud on it:
"Let me just tell you what I think about it. I think it was a disgraceful performance from a captain that got his sums wrong today, and I think it should never be permitted to happen again." -
@nzzp said in Aussie Cricket:
@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
I don't agree with the decision to bowl underarm, but still to be talking about it 40 years later?
Aus is consistently so much better than us at Cricket, that to get robbed of the chance to win by something that Benaud called a disgrace really rankles.
Let's be honest, the chances of scoring a 6 off the last ball was tiny. Yet it's not sporting to not allow a competition. It's like that bowler this week conceding a wide on the last ball of the innings preventing a batter getting a ton. If he did it, it was completely legit, but people arc up, the media get going, etc.
Anyway, here's Benaud on it:
"Let me just tell you what I think about it. I think it was a disgraceful performance from a captain that got his sums wrong today, and I think it should never be permitted to happen again."I don't disagree with any of that. It should have been the talk of the town... for a week or two. Then life should have moved on, like it does after a bowler chucks down a wide to rob a batsman of his hundred.
Instead, here we are 40 years later...
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oh no, absolutely everyone should just forget about an Australian Captain deciding to deny a cricket minnow a slight chance of a draw by dredging up a delivery that, while "legal" had not been seen since the 1700s. It was decided the risk of Brian McKechnie, a player who had a grand total of 54 ODI runs, at an average of 13, could just hit a 6 at the MCG was far too great to follow standard cricketing protocol.
That it happened between NZ (the minnow) and Australia (the cricketing giant), with all the big brother/little brother national rivalry; that it was big brother doing it; that it forced an immediate rule change, all of that should just be ignored.
It's part of sporting lore, of course it should be talked about. Sport is stories, or why do we watch?
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@mariner4life Yeah, I just don't think it's a story worth 40 years of retelling.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
@mariner4life Yeah, I just don't think it's a story worth 40 years of retelling.
seriously weird take i reckon.
way more minor shit than this comes up all the time.
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@mariner4life Really? I reckon we've pretty much forgotten far more serious stuff than this.
Are we going to be talking about Hansie Cronje in 2042? I doubt it, but what the bloke did was far worse (and more interesting IMO) than the underarm ball.
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@Donsteppa Yeah I'd be more than happy to toss that one out as well.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
@mariner4life Yeah, I just don't think it's a story worth 40 years of retelling.
Some of us on here are still aggrieved over things relating back to 9 July 1927 http://rugbymuseum.co.nz/tdih-july-9-1927-the-battle-of-solway/
and don't get me started on the event at Cardiff Arms Park on 16 December 1905!
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@barbarian to kiwis and aussies? we're the only ones who talk about it. it's our story.
it's not just the delivery, the whole story is there. PMs having their say. Widespread condemnation. a rule change. it's an interesting story that comes up when we play each other.
It's taken on a life of its own, as sporting stories tend to do. And i am cool with that. To me it's a funny piece of sporting history. I bet to guys my dad's age and older, it probably still pisses them off, as only sport can do.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
@Donsteppa Yeah I'd be more than happy to toss that one out as well.
why? again, that's almost mythological in its retelling.
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@mariner4life Too bloody right it does for us old fogies who had to put up with both the underarm and the Martin Sneddon catch of Gregg Chappell in the same match.
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@Higgins said in Aussie Cricket:
@mariner4life Too bloody right it does for us old fogies who had to put up with both the underarm and the Martin Sneddon catch of Gregg Chappell in the same match.
the forgotten and more significant controversy
wasn't the umpire's official explanation that they weren't looking, the were looking at the runners?
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@Bovidae said in Aussie Cricket:
Speaking of the umpires, should we also mention that the last delivery should have been a no-ball as Aust had too many players outside the inner circle.
Lillee didn't walk in.oh shit i didn't know that!
no wonder the aussies want this to all go away.
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It clearly irks @barbarian that his team were a bunch of fluffybunnies and have largely continued the trend since. If you shag one goat, you are a goat shagger for life.
Seriously though, I'm of the same opinion as mariner. It's sporting folklore. Like "hand of god" doesn't ever get mentioned...
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The Sneddon catch was also so bloody obvious, but two Aussie umpires...
@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
no wonder the aussies want this to all go away.
This.
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@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
The underarm incident was a boring, overblown non event 40 years ago.
How people still feel the need to wank on about it to this day is completely beyond me.
Genuine question. How old were you when it happened?
And it's always good to remind Aussies of their shameful acts.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
I've always been a bit perplexed by underarm. It still resonates so strongly, and yet what Australia did was entirely legal at the time. It seems to be the 80s equivalent to Sandpapergate, and yet they are completely different situations with only one actually outside the rules of the game.
I don't agree with the decision to bowl underarm, but still to be talking about it 40 years later?
You guys are still a bit miffed about Bodyline aren't you. Perfectly legal ...
