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    @dogmeat said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Just build a path through and around it and call it the Christchurch Urban Network Trail (for) Syclists (sic). The government will throw hundreds of millions at it.

    Add a velodrome into the roofed stadium, probably get an extra $750 mill for the setup…

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    so it's basically going to be FMG Stadium Waikato except with poor turf conditions and a roof.

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    @kiwimurph said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    so it's basically going to be FMG Stadium Waikato except with poor turf conditions and a roof.

    And a massive price tag

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    @antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @tim 25K seats! Isn't Christchurch the second most populated urban centre in New Zealand?

    and confirmed as @tim posted this afternoon.

    This is a terrible decision, I reckon this deeply compromises the stadium capability. Damn

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    just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

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    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

    I think it is 25k upto 27.5k with temporary

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    @machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

    I think it is 25k upto 27.5k with temporary

    I think it's 25, and if they can find efficiencies, will be 27.5 with temp. 'hope is not a strategy' ... except here in politics

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    i dont want to seem disingenuous, @shark and i have gone back and forward on this, so to be clear

    I am happy enough with a lower number of permanent seats (Forsyth Barr only has 18-20K depending on your source) if thats whats needed to bring the project to an acceptable budget, my experience being you only need those upper capacities for a couple of event a year....but...you do need that ability to seat those bigger crowds for those couple of games....and...preferably there should be some scope to expand down the track

    basically, as has been said...worst of both worlds

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    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    i dont want to seem disingenuous, @shark and i have gone back and forward on this, so to be clear

    I am happy enough with a lower number of permanent seats (Forsyth Barr only has 18-20K depending on your source) if thats whats needed to bring the project to an acceptable budget, my experience being you only need those upper capacities for a couple of event a year....but...you do need that ability to seat those bigger crowds for those couple of games....and...preferably there should be some scope to expand down the track

    basically, as has been said...worst of both worlds

    Yeah, that's where I come down on this too. I thought that a Forsyth model would have been fine. They'd probably not get Springbok tests but would still one to two tests a year. With this, the conversation changes a bit. I'd personally have taken out the concourse and had a regularly 20,000 seater than than be extended to 30,000 for tests.

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    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

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    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

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    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

    Jul 21, 2021  /  City life

    New design direction for Canterbury Multi-Use Arena

    New design direction for Canterbury Multi-Use Arena

    Christchurch City Council has approved a new design direction for the Canterbury Multi-Use Arena in an effort to minimise a multi-million dollar cost increase to the central city’s final anchor project.

    I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

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    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

    Might get a bit congested with 10k seats on the field when the ABs are playing!

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    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

    Jul 21, 2021  /  City life

    New design direction for Canterbury Multi-Use Arena

    New design direction for Canterbury Multi-Use Arena

    Christchurch City Council has approved a new design direction for the Canterbury Multi-Use Arena in an effort to minimise a multi-million dollar cost increase to the central city’s final anchor project.

    I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

    OK, so tests against Fiji and perhaps Argentina then.

    The Saders barely fill up their stadium now though, right? So the only games affected will be AB tests they won't get and Super Rugby finals?

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    Its a fucking joke. Just a fucking bad fucking joke. Local body incompetence at its absolute finest.

    Finally now I see people on various social media platforms coming out pissing and whining about it now the already under-sized arena has unsurprisingly shrunk. Where have these people been and why start moaning now it's shrunk by 2500-5000 seats when it was already drastically unfit for purpose??

    The writing was on the cunting wall at least two fucking years ago. The mayor and her councillors have been thoroughly exposed now as absolute fucking donkeys (harsh on donkeys who at least have value as a labourer animal) and must be held to account over this debacle.

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    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

    Jul 21, 2021  /  City life

    New design direction for Canterbury Multi-Use Arena

    New design direction for Canterbury Multi-Use Arena

    Christchurch City Council has approved a new design direction for the Canterbury Multi-Use Arena in an effort to minimise a multi-million dollar cost increase to the central city’s final anchor project.

    I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

    OK, so tests against Fiji and perhaps Argentina then.

    The Saders barely fill up their stadium now though, right? So the only games affected will be AB tests they won't get and Super Rugby finals?

    Will make a difference in the winter with a roof it will help the numbers for the Crusaders

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Its a fucking joke. Just a fucking bad fucking joke. Local body incompetence at its absolute finest.

    Finally now I see people on various social media platforms coming out pissing and whining about it now the already under-sized arena has unsurprisingly shrunk. Where have these people been and why start moaning now it's shrunk by 2500-5000 seats when it was already drastically unfit for purpose??

    The writing was on the cunting wall at least two fucking years ago. The mayor and her councillors have been thoroughly exposed now as absolute fucking donkeys (harsh on donkeys who at least have value as a labourer animal) and must be held to account over this debacle.

    Fucking useless councillors it’s been a disgrace from the start,The stadium should have been built 6 years ago.
    Penny pinching fuckwits.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @chris

    I agree with both points.

    I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

    As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    If you take out AB tests vs major opponents the stadium is otherwise perfect size.

    In the NH most countries only have one test venue: twickenham, Aviva, millenium, Edinburgh etc.

    I’d rather have atmosphere for npc and super and have the 1 AB test per year vs wallabies or springboks go to Auckland.

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    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @chris

    I agree with both points.

    I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

    As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

    Spot on with the time= cost we were all saying that years ago,
    It seems the council didn’t understand that concept.

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