Stadium of Canterbury

booboo

@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

@shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

@Kiwiwomble I am pleased you've canvassed "all the professions current working on it (the stadium)" and can throw that considerable weight behind your assertion that money does in fact grow on trees.

when did i say money grows on trees? i'm just choosing to trust the professionals stance over what it will cost ,with some standard construction contingency, and not your stance that those people have got it so wrong

Your position is valid but as much as I think @shark is finding reasons to support what HE wants as a result, cost blowouts in your industry appear to be quite normal.
On of the big drawbacks we have in NZ is that the lack of big construction capabilities and competence means that once a path is started it can become a money pit. Can't afford to finish, can't afford to not finish.
Look at roading projects like transmission gully. NZTA can only keep throwing money at it to get it done now.

To digress ...

Wish I could find it but years ago I read an article in the IPENZ (Institution of Professional Engineers) magazine when it was still hardcopy (ie., ancient) that basically spelled out how Transmission Gully was a pipe dream and whilst it was not unbuildable it was essentially unaffordable.

Don't know how true it was but seems it may have had some basis.

Regardless, sometimes I wonder (well, we probably all know) that some projects are manipulated to be affordable for political expediency.

I'm not commenting on the Chch stadium with the above BTW.

FWIW my ill informed opinion is the roof is the better option. Just can't see the need for a larger capacity that will get used once a year.

Kiwiwomble

Oct 4, 2020

Christchurch stadium: $473m joint funding agreement signed off

Christchurch City Council and the Crown have formally signed off on a joint funding agreement for a new stadium in the city. Both parties agreed on...

more progress, still not sure if theres even a reference design out there

Hooroo

@shark has just been triggered....

shark

Haha yeah triggered a little. I'm PMSL over all the restrictions the CCC is now looking to impose on their own MUA. Curfews and limits to the number of loud events ie concerts, which are the main fucking reason for this debacle of a stadium.

Sheer and utter incompetence.

Kiwiwomble

i'm going to steer clear of all that, more interesting in the construction itself etc, its going to be well over a decade after the big quakes before they even break ground

Rapido

Addington stadium so good that Edinburgh Rugby appear to be copying it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/j6qjk5/edinburgh_rugby_digital_new_stadium_flythrough/

Stargazer

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/124059733/christchurch-council-seeking-feedback-on-noise-restrictions-for-multiuse-arena

Godder

Good to see we start from a position of wowserism...

Stargazer

Watching the Canterbury Earthquake National Memorial service. Ten years ago, today. So much pain still, and tears. This will stay with those affected forever.

Crucial

@shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

Haha yeah triggered a little. I'm PMSL over all the restrictions the CCC is now looking to impose on their own MUA. Curfews and limits to the number of loud events ie concerts, which are the main fucking reason for this debacle of a stadium.

Sheer and utter incompetence.

Pretty common things for stadiums though. EP, Caketin etc all have restrictions on curfew/ noise limits/ amount per year.

chchfanatic

@stargazer I think of myself as a “hard man “ but some stuff still gets to me. Trucks going past and shaking buildings etc. It was a horrible time that will
Be with us for the rest of our lives.

Stargazer

Christchurch sports stadium: Government moves to acquire NG building

Kiwiwomble

jeez, considering how much money council had thrown around in the last decade buying up these lots they much have really been holding out for fortune

antipodean

Is this thing built yet?

Kiwiwomble

@antipodean i think theyre still only doing enabling works...its years away id say

shark

Costs rising by the month (steel alone - reinforcing, structural and fixings - worldwide will be up around 25% from a couple of months ago, come next month), means the scope can only shrink and remarkably the CCC are still fucking around trying to buy a building on the fucking site.

When is some c*nt in a position of power or with a public profile going to finally call these useless fucks out over their inordinately dumb idea to build an indoor stadium with the budget at hand??