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    According to the article, only Queensland holds out for the new model

    *For the federated system of Australian rugby, where each state administration essentially runs its own race, the solution is seismic. The proposal McLennan and Waugh are pushing at Rugby Australia is to adopt a version of the NZ and Irish models, where decision-making is centralised.

    In Australia, NSW and Queensland have long been most resistant to change. But the writing has now gotten so large on the wall that even they are finding it’s impossible to ignore. Word is that the Brumbies in Canberra, the Rebels in Victoria and the NSW Waratahs are ready to move. The Force have incredible financial backing from Twiggy and Nicola Forrest and after being garrotted by the Pulver administration in August 2017 are naturally fiercely protective of their independence. That leaves Queensland, so often the contrarians, mulling over how the new world sits with them.*

    Sep 28, 2023  /  sport

    The future of Australian rugby is in Queensland’s hands

    The future of Australian rugby is in Queensland’s hands

    There is a solution to Australian rugby’s crisis that everyone can see, so why have years gone by without anyone doing it? It’s time for Ballymore to get on board.

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    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    And predictably, a sports journalist demonstrating they know fuck all about the sport:

    This is the same fuckwit who wrote that article a week or so back saying we should all be grateful for Eddie, because he selflessly gave up his shot at glory in 2023 in order to nurture the next generation in time for 2027.

    Shameless clickwhore.

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    @bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:

    Word is that the Brumbies in Canberra ... are ready to move.

    Which you wouldn't believe for a minute if you read the press they're releasing. Nothing but pure vitriol, quoting their onfield success through history, and ignoring all the financial mismanagement off it.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:

    Word is that the Brumbies in Canberra ... are ready to move.

    Which you wouldn't believe for a minute if you read the press they're releasing. Nothing but pure vitriol, quoting their onfield success through history, and ignoring all the financial mismanagement off it.

    true, although potentially out of the McLennan playbook of making lots of noise, just to ensure you get enough out of it when you have to bend.

    who knows whats going on though

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    well that didn't last long ...

    Michael Chammas, Iain Payten  /  Oct 3, 2023  /  NRL

    ‘Bad business’: Angus Crichton’s manager slams Rugby Australia over botched deal

    ‘Bad business’: Angus Crichton’s manager slams Rugby Australia over botched deal

    Crichton’s manager David Rawlings has shed light on the negotiations which fell over on Sunday after two-and-a-half months of back and forth between the two parties.

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    McLennan is not looking for sympathy. The decision to sack Dave Rennie and replace him with Jones in January, who himself had just been sacked by England, was a decision not without risks. He knew that. But he also knew that, in his summation, the worst thing he could have done was nothing.

    I was really concerned that we would get knocked out at the pool stages, which is why we made the change from Dave to Eddie,” McLennan told Telegraph Sport.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300981774/angry-wallabies-fan-confronts-rugby-australia-boss-at-restaurant

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    @antipodean

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:

    Word is that the Brumbies in Canberra ... are ready to move.

    Which you wouldn't believe for a minute if you read the press they're releasing. Nothing but pure vitriol, quoting their onfield success through history, and ignoring all the financial mismanagement off it.

    The antipathy towards RA in Canberra is palpable. They're worried that RA would move it to a more revenue friendly environment.

    Of course they'd be in a better position if they didn't sell off their assets in a suspicious transaction (from the outside looking in my lawyer has advised me to say).

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    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    Of course they'd be in a better position if they didn't sell off their assets in a suspicious transaction (from the outside looking in my lawyer has advised me to say).

    This is the circle of life. Or the circle of Rugby.

    Everyone thinks their shit doesn't stink.

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    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    @NTA I never understand RA's fascination with getting different backs to address what is clearly a forward's problem.

    That is a very good point. Maybe RA doesn't have enough ex forwards?

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    This is the circle of life. Or the circle of Rugby.

    Everyone thinks their shit doesn't stink.

    One of my great learnings from Ian Foster is that AB shit does stink.

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    @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

    They need a better online translator.

    More appropriately 'honeymoon' in this situation translates as 'close' or 'intimate'.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him back, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they were contacting him to get him on the selection panel for the coaching appointment.

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    @Tim there's a lot of ex-Wallabies saying that their sources had him do the interview, despite his protestations. I guess after the Stormer debacle, very few believe him.

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    @gt12 said in Aussie Rugby:

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him back, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they were contacting him to get him on the selection panel for the coaching appointment.

    if the latter, why deny it? Perfect alibi.

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    @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

    @gt12 said in Aussie Rugby:

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him back, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they were contacting him to get him on the selection panel for the coaching appointment.

    if the latter, why deny it? Perfect alibi.

    Because if he thought things were going tits up with Australia, he may have said, 'Well, if I get fired I might be available?'

    I think it's well in the realms of possibility that he could get re-hired, but I don't think that he would need to go through any serious interview process with Japan RFU to get that job.

    Based on my experience with Japanese institutions and their reliance on relationships with past contributors (especially those considered successful), and given his standing with the key decision makers there, I could totally see a situation where they contacted him trying to get him to take on any role / or assist with the selection of the coach, in whatever capacity he would be available

    That could easily be interpreted as 'interviewed for the coaching appointment' when it was actually 'interviewed for any role he might be prepared to take on'.

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    @gt12 said in Aussie Rugby:

    That could easily be interpreted as 'interviewed for the coaching appointment' when it was actually 'interviewed for any role he might be prepared to take on'.

    That sounds plausible.

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    I actually think that's what happened. He had a call with them, but it was a general chat about his future. Could he recommend coaching options? Could he coach the team? Is there anything else he could do?

    So Eddie can truthfully say it wasn't a 'job interview' but it was a detailed chat about future employment.

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    Kiwiwomble Banned
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    @barbarian quite possibly......im just not sure why he wouldnt just say something like that and straight up refuted it

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    It's semantics - why the fuck is he interviewing with another union 9 months Into a 5 year deal - 2 weeks before the RWC

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